Apple 3g tv was great the 4g sucks. Siri is ok and a couple other
things. Might look in to trading up to the amazon fire tv soonish.

On 6/6/17, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Actually, the TV app misses some things.  In my experience, when you get
> recommendations based on other things you have watched, they are not
> accessible with Voiceover.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> TV app works fine.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:25 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?
>>
>> You raise an interesting point.  Thinking about Netflix, I wonder how the
>> phone app and the TV app compare.  I have the app on my phone, but never
>> use it.  I may have to check it out further just out of curiosity.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Scott Granados <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it depends on how the accessibility is implemented.  Issues on
>>> Apple may not exist on Android and vise versa.  Just a guess but I
>>> suspect that’s part of it.  Also, Apple has not done nearly as good of a
>>> job insisting on accessibility on the TV unit as they have on the phone
>>> in my opinion.
>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> that's interesting.  Given that the same issue of app developers
>>>> building--or not building in accessibility, it would seem that apps that
>>>> have problems on one device would have problems on the other.
>>>>
>>>> As for 3 vs. 4th gen, it's true the 3rd gen was a cleaner interface but
>>>> it also didn't try to do as much.  I like the keypad on the 4th, and the
>>>> addition of Siri.  I also like the touchpad, for me it makes many things
>>>> more efficient.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Scott Granados <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The apps are far more hit and miss in my experience than the fire TV.
>>>>> Not sure what’s at work there.  THere’s just simple stuff like
>>>>> consistently getting the code read to you that you use to register with
>>>>> the provider to stream live content.  My local channels apps like CBS
>>>>> work more consistently and accessibly in my experience.  I’m a much
>>>>> bigger fan of the generation 3 than the 4.  The 3 was much cleaner and
>>>>> didn’t depend on 3rd parties as much.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you figure the accessibility sucks?  I mean, it's true, the
>>>>>> 3rd-party apps can be dicey, as they depend on whether the developer
>>>>>> has made them accessible.  But I have no accessibility gripes  with
>>>>>> the Apple TV itself.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Scott Granados
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the accessibility sucks on the Apple TV 4th gen.  I myself prefer
>>>>>>> the 3rd get from the perspective of a. user.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The apps are hit and miss when it comes to accessibility.  The Amazon
>>>>>>> fire TV is less expensive, more powerful in terms of graphics and
>>>>>>> processor and in my opinion the accessibility is more consistent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:38 AM, E.T. <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>>> Perhaps our viewing habits are different. Might bve I do not know
>>>>>>>> what I am missing but the ATV 3rd works just fine for me. One
>>>>>>>> reason I want a 4fh is to add apps not available on the 3rd. Got
>>>>>>>> a 4th? Send it to me. (smiles)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the
>>>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn
>>>>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 8:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Apple TV isn’t that great.  The amazon fire TV is a better unit
>>>>>>>>> in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 6:31 PM, E.T. <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A single keyboard that has all of the characters, no more
>>>>>>>>>> switching to get numbers or punctuation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some other changes, one of which may be good is a Files app
>>>>>>>>>> probably like Finder. Also a document scan function.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 5 and 5c will be left behind as well as iPad 4th and older.
>>>>>>>>>> I still have an iPad mini 2nd but would rather get an Apple TV 4th
>>>>>>>>>> if I had the bucks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the
>>>>>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn
>>>>>>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 3:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> So I missed the event.  I'll watch it eventually, but what are
>>>>>>>>>>> people excited about in IOS 11?  Also, any updates to the MBA?
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:22 PM, E.T. <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will definitely get a new iPhone before September so I can run
>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply
>>>>>>>>>>>> turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 1:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what does everyone think of the announcements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I’m going to leave the home speaker on the store
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shelf but the new iMac Pro is calling my name.  Being able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have 18 cores and 128 GB of RAM as well s 16 GB of video
>>>>>>>>>>>>> memory is pretty hot.  Granted the device starts a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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