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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2017 1:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware? Lenron, amazon fire TV is less expensive than Apple. The fire stick is only $35 if memory serves and the full fire TV set top box is $99. > On Jun 7, 2017, at 4:13 AM, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Apple 3g tv was great the 4g ucks. Siri is ok and a couple other > things. Might look in to trading up to the amazon fire tv soonish. > > On 6/6/17, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >> Actually, the TV app misses some things. In my experience, when you >> get recommendations based on other things you have watched, they are >> not accessible with Voiceover. >> Cheers, >> Donna >>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> TV app works fine. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:25 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware? >>> >>> You raise an interesting point. Thinking about Netflix, I wonder >>> how the phone app and the TV app compare. I have the app on my >>> phone, but never use it. I may have to check it out further just out of >>> curiosity. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Scott Granados >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think it depends on how the accessibility is implemented. Issues >>>> on Apple may not exist on Android and vise versa. Just a guess but >>>> I suspect that’s part of it. Also, Apple has not done nearly as >>>> good of a job insisting on accessibility on the TV unit as they >>>> have on the phone in my opinion. >>>> >>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> that's interesting. Given that the same issue of app developers >>>>> building--or not building in accessibility, it would seem that >>>>> apps that have problems on one device would have problems on the other. >>>>> >>>>> As for 3 vs. 4th gen, it's true the 3rd gen was a cleaner >>>>> interface but it also didn't try to do as much. I like the keypad >>>>> on the 4th, and the addition of Siri. I also like the touchpad, >>>>> for me it makes many things more efficient. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Scott Granados >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The apps are far more hit and miss in my experience than the fire TV. >>>>>> Not sure what’s at work there. THere’s just simple stuff like >>>>>> consistently getting the code read to you that you use to >>>>>> register with the provider to stream live content. My local >>>>>> channels apps like CBS work more consistently and accessibly in >>>>>> my experience. I’m a much bigger fan of the generation 3 than >>>>>> the 4. The 3 was much cleaner and didn’t depend on 3rd parties as much. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you figure the accessibility sucks? I mean, it's true, >>>>>>> the 3rd-party apps can be dicey, as they depend on whether the >>>>>>> developer has made them accessible. But I have no accessibility >>>>>>> gripes with the Apple TV itself. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Scott Granados >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So the accessibility sucks on the Apple TV 4th gen. I myself >>>>>>>> prefer the 3rd get from the perspective of a. user. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The apps are hit and miss when it comes to accessibility. The >>>>>>>> Amazon fire TV is less expensive, more powerful in terms of >>>>>>>> graphics and processor and in my opinion the accessibility is more >>>>>>>> consistent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:38 AM, E.T. <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scott, >>>>>>>>> Perhaps our viewing habits are different. Might bve I do not >>>>>>>>> know what I am missing but the ATV 3rd works just fine for me. >>>>>>>>> One reason I want a 4fh is to add apps not available on the >>>>>>>>> 3rd. Got a 4th? Send it to me. (smiles) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the >>>>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn >>>>>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 8:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The Apple TV isn’t that great. The amazon fire TV is a >>>>>>>>>> better unit in my opinion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 6:31 PM, E.T. <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A single keyboard that has all of the characters, no more >>>>>>>>>>> switching to get numbers or punctuation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some other changes, one of which may be good is a Files app >>>>>>>>>>> probably like Finder. Also a document scan function. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 5 and 5c will be left behind as well as iPad 4th and older. >>>>>>>>>>> I still have an iPad mini 2nd but would rather get an Apple >>>>>>>>>>> TV 4th if I had the bucks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of >>>>>>>>>>> the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You >>>>>>>>>>> simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 3:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> So I missed the event. I'll watch it eventually, but what >>>>>>>>>>>> are people excited about in IOS 11? Also, any updates to the MBA? >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:22 PM, E.T. >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will definitely get a new iPhone before September so I >>>>>>>>>>>>> can run iOS 11. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You >>>>>>>>>>>>> simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagan >>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 1:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what does everyone think of the announcements. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I’m going to leave the home speaker on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> store shelf but the new iMac Pro is calling my name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being able to have 18 cores and 128 GB of RAM as well s >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 GB of video memory is pretty hot. 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