Simon, Are you doing this from complete shutdown or restart? With File Vault enabled, the initial login screen after restart or shutdown is pre-system load-up, thus VO is not usually available. After you've got past this screen, then can be a second login which is totally available. Now, I'm running an older MBP, so it's possible that things act differently in newer Mac models, but I'm not certain. It seems problematic though if VO was available at the initial Login screen as that would mean that unrestricted access to much of the file system would be gained before the password was required.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 11, 2017, at 03:00, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: Umm, John, this is not true, I do this everytime I log in to my mac book air, I have file volt running and at the log in screen I start up vo with cmd f5 and then vo shift down arrow which opens the users list I select my name and then vo space bar and enter the password, And I’ve done this for the last 3 versions of the osx So if it’s not working for you guys I don’t know what is different. the From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 2:57 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: VO bug logging in with Filevolt enabled This is absolutely correct. You cannot navigate in the login window for FileVault. It doesn't matter how many users have accounts on the system, you simply type your user name at the prompt and then your password. You cannot choose the user as you can do with the normal login window. FileVault's login window is prompted before the system disk even is accessed. It is a special login window entirely. So, there is no automatic login for any account and the option to have VoiceOver speak in the login window is not available for FileVault login. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jun 10, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hello, This login is a very limited system screen and though it sounds similar to VoiceOver it is not VoiceOVer It will say user name until you enter a legit user name something like "john" or "joncohn" and hit enter once your user name has been accepted it will say password. If you enter the correct password then in a few seconds you will have all the normal functionality available or else it will say username or password incorrect. My experience has been I have to type in all the characters of my username I have never found a way to do this with arrow keys and certainly the VO style keys I have found to do nothing. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Nickus de Vos <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: My sighted help could only access the password field when VO was switched off, but if I switch vo again, not even the sighted person can navigate to the username or password field. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jun 2017, at 13:07, Terje Strømberg <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Did your sighted friend see the password field? Take care 9. jun. 2017 kl. 21.54 skrev Nickus de Vos <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: I did switch on voice-over, I even tried and to switch on and off a couple of times. I'll try again maybe I missed something. Thanks Sent from my iPhone On 09 Jun 2017, at 21:41, Donna Goodin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi all, I haven't used FileVault, but have been thinking about doing it for a while now. So I have a question about John's post. Do you choose a username, or is it assigned? If assigned, what do you have to enter, the entire file path or just the name of that folder? TIA, Donna On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: hi, Further to John's note, usually, VO is not active, nor available, at the initial login screen when File Vault is enabled. You can press cmd-f5 to try to turn on VO, you should get a single tone, at this point, as John mentioned, just type your username and press return. If it accepts your username, two tones will sound meaning that it's ready for your password. In my case, once I start entering my password, a tone is sounded for each key-press. After you finish the password, press return and you should hear three tones if the password was accepted. Your Mac will then start up normally. You can then log off and on with the normal login screen most of the time, unless your machine is restarted or shutdown at which time you'll hear the good old tone once again. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 9, 2017, at 13:22, John Panarese <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: FileVault should work just fine. The login window is different though. Be sure you press command-F5 to turn on VoiceOver. It will ask for your account name, which is whatever the name is for your home folder is called. Then, press enter and it will prompt you for your password. Type that and hit enter. Take Care John D. 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So basically I found it impossible to log in to my Mac using voiceover, I had to get sighted assistance to get passed the log in screen, luckily someone was on hand. I first thought I could simply enable automatic log in so that it doesn’t ask for my password when starting up the machine, but turns out with File Volt encryption enabled, you can’t enable automatic log in. For now I disabled File Volt to work around this issue, but I’d like to enable it again if possible. Have anyone else came across this bug and are there any work arounds, something I missed? Nickus -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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