Hi Alex, did you really check this? In High Sierra it is broken in that way 
that there are some voices in the rotor which are not checked in VoiceOver 
utilities and which I never would have checked like Fred. So, if you know a way 
of removing them I'd be more then delighted.

Thanks, Jürgen



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> Am 15.10.2017 um 21:12 schrieb Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com>:
> 
> If you look at the table of language options in VO Utility . Speech, you can 
> see all the voices that are enabled. Simply remove one to disable it in your 
> rotor, or add one to enable it.
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>> On Oct 15, 2017, at 13:25, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>   If you uncheck them, they still show up on the rotor?  I'll have to look 
>> at that.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>>> On Oct 15, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately not these voices in High Sierra. Seems to be a bug. 
>>> 
>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>> 
>>>> Am 15.10.2017 um 18:42 schrieb John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>    You can remove any voices from VoiceOver Utility by unchecking the 
>>>> boxes for the specific voice. Just choose, custom, as you would if you 
>>>> wanted to add voices. Once you do this, you won't see the voices in the 
>>>> rotor options.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 15, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I don't like that either. Let's hope Apple will change this quickly 
>>>>> and not in 10.14. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 15.10.2017 um 18:22 schrieb Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I must say i dislike the way the new voice rotor works.  Up until 
>>>>>> Sierra, if you needed more than one language to work with, you would 
>>>>>> customise the rotor by adding languages and then you would be able to 
>>>>>> choose the language you want on the fly by vo+command+arrow keys.  The 
>>>>>> issue in High Sierra is not that one needs the addition of the shift key 
>>>>>> to work but rather that I have some other languages in the rotor which I 
>>>>>> have not chosen and I can’t get rid of them.  Those of you who use more 
>>>>>> than one language, can you see the same behaviour?  Also, before High 
>>>>>> Sierra, when you chose a different language, the previous one you had 
>>>>>> been using was just the next in the list if you wanted to return to it, 
>>>>>> all you needed is one press of the key combination for the voices menu. 
>>>>>> In High Sierra you have to go back up the list if the voice you have 
>>>>>> chosen is the third or fourth, because the previous voice remains where 
>>>>>> it always has been in the list.  Could you test it for me?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrew
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