Except we could do this in Sierra. I need to boot into Sierra to
check something tomorrow if I don't forget.
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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On 10/15/2017 8:28 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,
I was able to remove Fred, but I wonder if the compact voices are used as part
of the base system so cannot be removed. Just a guess for now.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 15, 2017, at 19:09, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote:
This seems to work on downloaded voices but not the compact ones. There are
6 of those from the English speaking countries.
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: [email protected]
On 10/15/2017 5:42 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,
I agree that from a VO prospective, this is certainly a bug. The workaround is to use System
Prefs. Go into System Prefs, Accessibility, then select Speech from the table. The default System
voice will be announced in the pop-up. Choose Customize from this menu and you can uncheck voices
just like in the VO Utility. After pressing OK, you should be prompted with the question
"Would you like to remove the voice that you've unselected, or keep them". If you choose
"Remove" then they shouldn't appear in the rotor anymore. I didn't test if you kept them
whether they'd be removed from the rotor, but deleting them did remove them from the rotor for me.
I still recommend that you submit a bug report about the problem from the VO
Utility prospective, but this hopefully helps you for now.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 15, 2017, at 16:58, John Panarese <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
I stand corrected. Yes, I've just tried this with both the Apple default
voices and a few of the additional ones and though they are unchecked, they
remain in the rotor selections. Please report this to,
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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Email, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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On Oct 15, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear John,
That is exactly what I have done with no effect. I’ve been a user of Voiceover
for ten years, so I have quite a bit of experience of problems, and that’s what
I’ve done straight away. But this hasn’t produced any improvements. That’s
why I think it may be a bug. Are you saying that you work in the multilingual
environment with many voices and that you are not experiencing the same
problems that I’ve described?
Andrew
On Oct 15, 2017, at 5:42 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You can remove any voices from VoiceOver Utility by unchecking the boxes
for the specific voice. Just choose, custom, as you would if you wanted to add
voices. Once you do this, you won't see the voices in the rotor options.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
On Oct 15, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Jürgen Fleger <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yes, I don't like that either. Let's hope Apple will change this quickly and
not in 10.14.
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Am 15.10.2017 um 18:22 schrieb Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Listers,
I must say i dislike the way the new voice rotor works. Up until Sierra, if
you needed more than one language to work with, you would customise the rotor
by adding languages and then you would be able to choose the language you want
on the fly by vo+command+arrow keys. The issue in High Sierra is not that one
needs the addition of the shift key to work but rather that I have some other
languages in the rotor which I have not chosen and I can’t get rid of them.
Those of you who use more than one language, can you see the same behaviour?
Also, before High Sierra, when you chose a different language, the previous one
you had been using was just the next in the list if you wanted to return to it,
all you needed is one press of the key combination for the voices menu. In High
Sierra you have to go back up the list if the voice you have chosen is the
third or fourth, because the previous voice remains where it always has been in
the list. Could you test it for me?
Many thanks
Andrew
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