Anne, Anne, Anne. (big smile) You know, I felt a pang of guilt as I read your post because I haven't performed a completely clean install of an OS, on my primary partition, since 2009. (big smile).
I keep telling myself, "Okay, next time I'm going to wipe the disk and start from scratch"; but, somehow I never do. The funny thing is that I perform clean installs of computers, both Windows and Macs, multiple times a month for friends, family, and friends of family but there's something about doing it on my own Mac. (smile). What's even worse, I perform clean installs on my various secondary partitions, from time-to-time, with no problems; and, even more, I have multiple bootable backups of my primary partition so, were something to go wrong, I could quickly and easily restore the drive. There's just something about doing that clean install. Oh well, next time. (smile). Mark From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Upgrade to High Sierra. Hello Jonathan, I presume this upgrade was just that, not a clean install? I always prefer to make a bootable USB key to install a new version of the OS and to take the opportunity to do a bit of housekeeping on my computer. It looks as though about a third of the people on my French list who’ve done an upgrade rather than a clean install, have had fairly major problems with High Sierra. For French speakers, there’s an additional problem in that the French voice does not become available until the installation is complete, and even then, you have to go into VoiceOver Utility to get one. This is the worst new version of the OS that I can remember and I’m not putting High Sierra on my personal computer for the time being. Cheers, Anne On 18 Nov 2017, at 18:11, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected]> wrote: Well, the upgrade to High Sierra for me was not as smooth as the last two upgrades. Basic information: mid 2015 MacBookAir 11 inch with all upgrades possible. File Vault installed. I started the upgrade but was on a network that was not performing well at first so I believe most of my issues were related to that. 1. After waiting a bit after clicking the restart button, I came back and my Macintosh was saying "Installer has no windows". That was all VoiceOver would say. I got my wife to look at the screen and it said installation had failed, and I needed to power off and then power back on. I needed to do not just a power on but a power on with command-R clicked. At this point I was prompted for installing High Sierra and proceeded. My wife actually did the work from the recovery partition and so VoiceOver was not turned on for the process. After about 20 minutes the system rebooted and prompted for file vault access but I could not get File Vault prompts to speak. So it was back to my wife. After putting in passwords installation process phase 2 started and ran for about 35 minutes. I was able to turn on VoiceOver after about 2 minutes of this installation and everything went smoothly for me from there. First observations, I was surprised that SIRI did not have permission for my location and that Facebook did. In general I really don't like Facebook knowing that much information about me. I also noticed when I was in the privacy settings that the selected item in a table seemed to become unselected when I moved around a bit causing me to have to re-find the application I wanted to review options for. This might have changed once I adjusted VoiceOver navigation options. Also was a little disappointed at the reduced number of options in the Navigation area of VoiceOver utility. Though I will review what folks were saying about mouse clicks now that I am on this system, and see what happens in various modes. I like the ability to directly enter values into sliders though the interface seems to need a little cleanup. I'll write later about my views on this but obviously the only way to get results is to provide appropriate feedback directly to Apple. HTH those still waiting to upgrade, Jonathan Cohn -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: [email protected] and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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