well, small problem… I would have to spend a great deal of money to get to the NFB convention. that would leave me with very little to spend on needed products (like jaws). I happen to use the Pro version here (it was included as part of my contract) and any further upgrades would be along that path. so, it *will* definitely cost me more, even if there is no significant difference between the pro and home versions. Even then, the retail cost (according to the freedom scientific website) is still just as expensive. So, even after the takeover, there hasn't been any real change to the pricing model. About the only thing that has changed is there is now less choice in what you get to use. There used to be Window Eyes, jaws, Thunder, System Access and NVDA. Now, there is jaws, System access, NVDA and possibly narrator (which I don't count as a serious screen reader with it's current limitations). So, even though VFO has a good business model, their motive is still profit.
Speaking of, which, if Freedom Scientific (VFO) were to drop the government business pricing model and simply sell to the blind public for about $120, they would be generating far more income. They wouldn't have to wait for government vouchers to be paid on, not have to negotiate onerous government contracts or jump through regulatory hoops. They would go from selling through government agencies to (at most) several hundred vocational rehabilitation recipients per year, to many multiple orders of magnitude greater customers. $100 puts the price well within reach of even the most impoverished blind person. It would also cut down on piracy (the current price point encourages it in most foreign countries) ok, at this point, I have wandered way off the reservation with regard to the topic. Now, as for installing jaws on a mac.. Assuming you have the correct version that works with your key, and you have all the bootcamp drivers installed, there shouldn't be any issues installing there Given what I have seen in this thread, it appears that it is either a version conflict, or something that the registration program reads changes between reboots. In either case, that can be bad, as it will force the end user to use all the available registrations they have with the product. That will leave them without a working product within a very short time (and 40 minute demo mode is a real PITA). -eric On Jan 7, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > Sorry, not quite. The Pro version costs about as much as JAWS always did in > the past. The home version SMA is about $120. There is also a special pricing > for the home version that you can get if your company buys enough of the Pro > version or if you go to the NFB National convention. > > But still I have hard several times from VFO folks that the difference > between Pro and Home is licensing rather than anything technical. > I believe you can even get the remote client services for the home version > which was not true for v15. > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > >> On Jan 7, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> well, so that is how VFO is trying to play the game. If you make money on a >> paid for product (like jaws), they demand what? A percentage or an extra fee? >> >> btw, I am still on Jaws 16 here (the pro version) and there was no such >> clause in that user agreement then. >> -eric >> >> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >> >>> If you are installing a version of JAWS that is newer than what your SMA >>> allows, then it will say so. The Professional and Home versions are >>> identical except for the agreement to use for non-commercial purposes. >>> Essentially if you are making money off the computer that JAWS is running >>> on, VFO wants a bit of that money. There have been issues with JAWS 18 and >>> earlier where if you adjusted VM settings in any way you needed to >>> re-authorize the computer. Without the accompanying text in the >>> authorizing dialog it is hard to tell exactly what went wrong. >>> >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Jonathan Cohn >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes I believe it is. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws? >>>>> >>>>> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton >>>>> Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac >>>>> >>>>> Hello folks, >>>>> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After >>>>> installing jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after >>>>> rebooting the computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. >>>>> It has my jaws authorization number in there again and it tells me >>>>> activation was successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on >>>>> why the activation is not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being >>>>> installed and not the home version. But I didn’t see a separate installer >>>>> for that version. A few years ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the >>>>> home one vbut jaws professional is being installed here. Wonder if that >>>>> is why the activation window keeps coming up. 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