Hello Janina, Thank you for posting this info.
Yes, the techs at this number are excellent. I have called them several times during the past two years and they have resolved my issues, beautifully. Mark -----Original Message----- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 5:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Contact data for Microsoft's dedicated accessibility help desk Hi All: For everyone who's interested in contact data for the dedicated accessibility support desk service offered by Microsoft, the web page you want to bookmark is: https://support.microsoft.com/answerdesk/accessibility They have a phone number you can call in the U.S.: +1 800 936 5900 I have it on good authority these are specialists trained especially to help persons with disabilities use Windows and Office. They're based in Denver. Janina Jonathan Cohn writes: > Well Virtiual box has a pretty good command line interface. Did you get the > number for the Microsoft Accessibility help desk? > > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > > On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:09 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, Anders: > > > > Yeah, I'm starting to be tired of handing VMware a few hundred $$ > > every few years. > > > > I'm seriously thinking of switching to VirtualBox. I expect a > > steeper learning curve, but more consistent maintanance. > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi Janina! > >> Yeah typically i also have a tight budget this month. > >> I had to pay 150 bucks for repairing the display of my moto g5 and i think > >> i was stupid leaving it for repair as i have a nokia 8 now too. > >> Therefore i can’t buy the upgrade for vmware fusion. > >> Very frustrating. > >> /A > >> > >>> 12 jan. 2018 kl. 07:46 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > >>> > >>> Hi, Anders: > >>> > >>> I suspect that option might still be there for the paid version. > >>> It certainly was last time I used VMware, which was version 8.5.0 > >>> > >>> All I'm saying is that the option is not there in the 30day trial > >>> status of VMware 10.1.1. > >>> > >>> I upgraded the other day, through a couple iterations as directed > >>> by the VMware tool itself, from 8.5.0 all the way to version > >>> 10.1.1, but I did not opt to pay for a license as my funds are > >>> typically tight early January. > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > >>>> Hi! > >>>>> From what i understand you should be able to move the bootcamp to a > >>>>> virtual machine. > >>>> But i haven’t done this so i can’t say for sure but when i pressed > >>>> command n i found a table with a lot of options. > >>>> One of these options was to use a bootcamp partition. > >>>> /A > >>>> > >>>>> 11 jan. 2018 kl. 00:46 skrev Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk>: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello Janina, > >>>>> > >>>>> Well I’m tired of this and I’m going to get some sleep. > >>>>> > >>>>> My MacBook Air 2013 uses a driver Cirrus Audio CS4208 X64 driver. I > >>>>> have found several Apple resources then I found this Microsoft resource. > >>>>> > >>>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-har > >>>>> dware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636- > >>>>> 456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8 > >>>>> <https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-ha > >>>>> rdware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636 > >>>>> -456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8> > >>>>> > >>>>> Where as Apple tell us to get the latest driver this article suggests a > >>>>> roll back may solve the issue. I’ve tried downloading from a site but > >>>>> meet a graphical challenge. > >>>>> > >>>>> Let us know if you crack it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gena > >>>>> > >>>>> “Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived with. > >>>>> The real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.” > >>>>> > >>>>> Michael Hinson 2011 > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk > >>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello Janina, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well sound has died via my headset too. I didn’t get to the device > >>>>>> manager to see the driver status. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What the ….. is going on? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gena > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 20:50, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk > >>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello Janina, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp > >>>>>>> partition for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB > >>>>>>> headset that I used to install Windows. It made the new hardware > >>>>>>> sound through the headset and NVDA announced installing software for > >>>>>>> the new device. So I have lost sound via it’s own speakers and have > >>>>>>> sound through an independent sound card. So you were right it’s a > >>>>>>> driver issue. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now why should Windows mess about with a driver while it is in use? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Georgina Joyce > >>>>>>> Applied Psychologist > >>>>>>> Training and Coaching. > >>>>>>> Because individuals of groups matter! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:52, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk > >>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello Janina, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think the blind keystrokes might be: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Open the run dialog box: > >>>>>>>> cmd r, i.e. Windows r. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you have a cd/DVD version the USB will be assigned E:\ if not it > >>>>>>>> is likely to be d:\. I don’t know the path structure of the unzipped > >>>>>>>> package so you’ll need to know it by exploring it on the Mac side of > >>>>>>>> things. Going by the article your run command should be: > >>>>>>>> e:\windowsSupport\setup.ext > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Windows will want you to allow changes so you need: > >>>>>>>> opt Y i.e. alt y. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Then the article suggests you might need to click continue, so you > >>>>>>>> might need to: > >>>>>>>> opt c i.e. alt c. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You might need to do a: > >>>>>>>> opt f i.e alt f. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> To finish. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Then a opt y i.e. alt y. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Answering yes to a reboot. Then hold on to something that gives you > >>>>>>>> security to see what happens. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> HTH > >>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> “Why not?” > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Michael Hinson 2011 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:16, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk > >>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello Janina, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Good to hear from you too. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the > >>>>>>>>> bootcamp drivers. You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp > >>>>>>>>> hangs out there. There must be a way of triggering the install from > >>>>>>>>> the run dialog. If that is the sate of the machine like installs > >>>>>>>>> with Narrator support a USB headset would provide audio. Did you > >>>>>>>>> use a USB headset that has it’s own sound card for the installation? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the setup.exe > >>>>>>>>> from the run dialog. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> See here: > >>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923 > >>>>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not > >>>>>>>>>> already installed, get them installed. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process. > >>>>>>>>>> Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or > >>>>>>>>>> aborted, I have no way to know. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn writes: > >>>>>>>>>>> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how > >>>>>>>>>>> do this, but I understand that sound will not work correctly > >>>>>>>>>>> until the bootcamp drivers are installed once the OS has been > >>>>>>>>>>> installed. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk > >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Janina, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 > >>>>>>>>>>>> and blamed it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have removed and reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but > >>>>>>>>>>>> not really played with it. So I hope I don’t experience the > >>>>>>>>>>>> muting of sound again. I’m sure someone on the BCAB list also > >>>>>>>>>>>> had problems too. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so have you tried Narrator? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only > >>>>>>>>>>>> tried it once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I > >>>>>>>>>>>> mistyped or wasn’t in the right place to enter such a command. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The command was: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-soun > >>>>>>>>>>>> d-volume-via-the-command-line > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sou > >>>>>>>>>>>> nd-volume-via-the-command-line> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sou > >>>>>>>>>>>> nd-volume-via-the-command-line > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sou > >>>>>>>>>>>> nd-volume-via-the-command-line>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck and let us know how you get on. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Georgina Joyce > >>>>>>>>>>>> Applied Psychologist > >>>>>>>>>>>> Training and Coaching. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Because individuals of groups matter! > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> BootCamp install of Windows 10 from within VMware. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is refusing to work for my existing BootCamp install of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10. It worked for a brief while, then stopped. Nothing > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried has brought it back. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> These should have been installed via the BootCamp > >>>>>>>>>>>>> process, of course, but I've been unable to verify that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from Windows, though > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've verified there is a working installation there. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally > >>>>>>>>>>>>> died on me as I was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hand on a USB stick. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up > >>>>>>>>>>>>> my BootCamp install within the latest VMware? I'm > >>>>>>>>>>>>> presuming it reads apfs. But I wonder whether it would > >>>>>>>>>>>>> go silent the same way, or perhaps that it might be using > >>>>>>>>>>>>> different drivers at that level. 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You can > >>>>> reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and > >>>>> your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > >>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>>>> > >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>>> Visionaries list. > >>>> > >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >>>> > >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can > >>>> reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and > >>>> your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>>> > >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >>>> --- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Janina Sajka > >>> > >>> Linux Foundation Fellow > >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > >>> > >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > >>> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > >>> > >>> -- > >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>> Visionaries list. > >>> > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >>> > >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >>> mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner > >>> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>> > >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >>> --- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >> mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner > >> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > > mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner > > is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. 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