Well Virtiual box has a pretty good command line interface. Did you get the
number for the Microsoft Accessibility help desk?
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
> On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:09 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Anders:
>
> Yeah, I'm starting to be tired of handing VMware a few hundred $$
> every few years.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of switching to VirtualBox. I expect a
> steeper learning curve, but more consistent maintanance.
>
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi Janina!
>> Yeah typically i also have a tight budget this month.
>> I had to pay 150 bucks for repairing the display of my moto g5 and i
think i was stupid leaving it for repair as i have a nokia 8 now too.
>> Therefore i can’t buy the upgrade for vmware fusion.
>> Very frustrating.
>> /A
>>
>>> 12 jan. 2018 kl. 07:46 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi, Anders:
>>>
>>> I suspect that option might still be there for the paid version.
>>> It certainly was last time I used VMware, which was version 8.5.0
>>>
>>> All I'm saying is that the option is not there in the 30day trial
>>> status of VMware 10.1.1.
>>>
>>> I upgraded the other day, through a couple iterations as directed
>>> by the VMware tool itself, from 8.5.0 all the way to version
>>> 10.1.1, but I did not opt to pay for a license as my funds are
>>> typically tight early January.
>>>
>>> Janina
>>>
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>> From what i understand you should be able to move the bootcamp to a
virtual machine.
>>>> But i haven’t done this so i can’t say for sure but when i pressed
command n i found a table with a lot of options.
>>>> One of these options was to use a bootcamp partition.
>>>> /A
>>>>
>>>>> 11 jan. 2018 kl. 00:46 skrev Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Janina,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I’m tired of this and I’m going to get some sleep.
>>>>>
>>>>> My MacBook Air 2013 uses a driver Cirrus Audio CS4208 X64 driver. I
have found several Apple resources then I found this Microsoft resource.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-har
>>>>> dware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636-
>>>>> 456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8
>>>>> <https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-ha
>>>>> rdware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636
>>>>> -456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where as Apple tell us to get the latest driver this article suggests
a roll back may solve the issue. I’ve tried downloading from a site but
meet a graphical challenge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know if you crack it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gena
>>>>>
>>>>> “Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived
with. The real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Hinson 2011
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Janina,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well sound has died via my headset too. I didn’t get to the device
manager to see the driver status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the ….. is going on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 20:50, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Janina,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp
partition for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB
headset that I used to install Windows. It made the new hardware sound
through the headset and NVDA announced installing software for the new
device. So I have lost sound via it’s own speakers and have sound through
an independent sound card. So you were right it’s a driver issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now why should Windows mess about with a driver while it is in use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Georgina Joyce
>>>>>>> Applied Psychologist
>>>>>>> Training and Coaching.
>>>>>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:52, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Janina,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think the blind keystrokes might be:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open the run dialog box:
>>>>>>>> cmd r, i.e. Windows r.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have a cd/DVD version the USB will be assigned E:\ if not
it is likely to be d:\. I don’t know the path structure of the unzipped
package so you’ll need to know it by exploring it on the Mac side of
things. Going by the article your run command should be:
>>>>>>>> e:\windowsSupport\setup.ext
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Windows will want you to allow changes so you need:
>>>>>>>> opt Y i.e. alt y.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then the article suggests you might need to click continue, so you
might need to:
>>>>>>>> opt c i.e. alt c.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You might need to do a:
>>>>>>>> opt f i.e alt f.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To finish.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then a opt y i.e. alt y.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Answering yes to a reboot. Then hold on to something that gives
you security to see what happens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “Why not?”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael Hinson 2011
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:16, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Janina,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good to hear from you too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the
bootcamp drivers. You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp hangs
out there. There must be a way of triggering the install from the run
dialog. If that is the sate of the machine like installs with Narrator
support a USB headset would provide audio. Did you use a USB headset that
has it’s own sound card for the installation?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the
setup.exe from the run dialog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See here:
>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923
>>>>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not
>>>>>>>>>> already installed, get them installed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process.
>>>>>>>>>> Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or
>>>>>>>>>> aborted, I have no way to know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how
do this, but I understand that sound will not work correctly until the
bootcamp drivers are installed once the OS has been installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Janina,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows
10 and blamed it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have
removed and reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played
with it. So I hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure
someone on the BCAB list also had problems too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so have you tried Narrator?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only
tried it once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or
wasn’t in the right place to enter such a command.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The command was:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-soun
>>>>>>>>>>>> d-volume-via-the-command-line
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sou
>>>>>>>>>>>> nd-volume-via-the-command-line>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sou
>>>>>>>>>>>> nd-volume-via-the-command-line
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sou
>>>>>>>>>>>> nd-volume-via-the-command-line>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck and let us know how you get on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Georgina Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>> Applied Psychologist
>>>>>>>>>>>> Training and Coaching.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BootCamp install of Windows 10 from within VMware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is refusing to work for my existing BootCamp install of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10. It worked for a brief while, then stopped.
Nothing I've tried has brought it back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These should have been installed via the BootCamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process, of course, but I've been unable to verify that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from Windows,
though I've verified there is a working installation there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> died on me as I was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers
at hand on a USB stick.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my BootCamp install within the latest VMware? I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> presuming it reads apfs. But I wonder whether it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go silent the same way, or perhaps that it might be using
different drivers at that level. Anyone know?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All help much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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