I’m kind of in a different place again.

I have a mid 2013 mac book air 11inch,
Mine is customised which has given me more benefits in what I’m running
 Now coming up 5 years old I’ts a i7 1.7ghz 8gb ram 500gb harddrive.

I run windows 10 in bootcamp constantly.

The air to me is a good little entry level machine,
2 USB 3 ports, and 1 thunderbolt / mini display port,
The 13 inch has pretty much the same with an SD card reader and if you upgrade 
the processor and ssd in them then you have a good machine if they let you 
upgrade ram to 16 from the default 8 gig would also give you a lot in a machine

I have looked at a new machine recently and desided that the pro without touch 
bar would be the machine for me.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2018 12:09 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch 
Bar?

Hi all,
I wanted to add my own thoughts, having owned an Air and now a Pro with Touch 
Bar. I agree that the Bar is unnecessary, making a few things easier, a few 
harder, and not offering a distinct advantage for most users. That said, Touch 
ID is very nice to have, though if you own an Apple Watch, Touch ID is seldom 
used since your Watch can unlock your Mac.

All that said, remember that the non-Touch Bar Pro is less powerful overall. It 
also includes only two USBC ports, while the Touch Bar model has four. If 
connectivity is an issue and you don't want to buy a dock or hub, this is worth 
considering.

The Air is a good machine, too. My sister has had one since fall of 2013, and 
the computer is still perfectly fine. However, the Air can't handle intense 
applications as well as a Pro, so this decision depends on what you'll be using 
it for, as others have said. There is a rumor out today about a new Air coming 
out by the summer, so it's worth waiting to see what happens there.

Your final option is the Retina MacBook, a finless Mac powered by a mobile 
processor that's incredibly small and light. It's not that powerful, but if you 
just want a web browser, word processor, email machine, it might fit the bill. 
It costs more than the Air but less than the Pro, and includes just one USBC 
port on it. I don't generally recommend this unit, given its lack of power, but 
it could work well depending on your use case and size/weight needs.

Overall, I'd ask what you'll use the computer for, as that will inform the 
advice of everyone on this list. Any other details you can offer will help, 
too. Finally, I really suggest waiting until the summer or fall. I'd be 
surprised if the Pro didn't get some kind of update later this year, and the 
rumor mill is saying something about the Air as well.

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Alex Hall





On Mar 3, 2018, at 14:36, Donna Goodin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi all,

The only thing I can add to what others have said, is that one thing I find 
much easier with the touch bar is inserting emojis. I also like having touch 
ID.  Other than those two things, I'm not really crazy about the touch bar.  
Much as I love the size and light weight of the Air, I share the concern that 
it will be discontinued.  So, unless you're one of those people who uses emojis 
every five words, I think you'd be just fine with an MBP without a touch bar.

Good luck with your decision, and have fun!
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Janet Ingber 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Randa,
A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing 
basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music, 
etc. then the Air is a good computer.

The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar, 
but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands most of 
the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no difficulty  with the 
Touch Bar.

If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is a 
nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend the 
extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with keyboard 
commands.

There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your questions.  
Glad you read my book.

Best,
Janet

On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my first 
Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar with 
VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a learning 
curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother me.  In 
fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet Ingbergt’s books, 
and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely want a portable Macbook, 
as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various perspectives on whether to get 
the Pro or the Air, as well as with or without touch bars. I’m leaning toward 
getting a Pro, but know of many people like the Air and are just as productive 
with it.  I’ve also read that getting one without the touch bar would be less 
expensive.  In your opinion, is the touch bar necessary or advantageous?  Or 
would I do just fine without it?  Whichever way I go with this, I’m trying to 
get the most for my money and want   a computer that will last me for as long 
as possible.

Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.

Rhanda


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