Hi David,

Just curious, what is a Windows convertible?

Face ID seemed good in theory, but in practice, it drives me crazy.  With Touch 
ID, when picking up my phone or getting it out of my purse, I could have it 
unlocked by the time I had it in front of me.  With touch ID I can't even start 
the unlock process till it's in front of my face, and then, at least several 
times daily it takes multiple tries to get it unlocked.  I suppose if one had 
the fingerprint sensor as an alternative, that would be OK, but it doesn't 
sound like that's even going to happen.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Aug 31, 2018, at 9:16 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am waiting to see what Apple shows in two weeks.
> 
> I have already switched to a touchscreen windows convertible.
> 
> I actually do like face ID. But, I also want the fingerprint sensor.
> 
> I love the Apple Watch and the AirPods. That said, I am much more closely 
> watching Android devices. I have found a few Braille Screen input type apps 
> on the Google Play store which I will soon be testing on my old Nexus 9.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: [email protected]
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Sep 2018, at 11:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> You know, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling frustrated with 
>> Apple.  I was really hoping that the new iPhone models would include an 
>> option for a faster iPhone 8.  Face ID sucks.  It takes significantly longer 
>> to unlock your phone, and is much more finicky.  I'm feeling resentful that 
>> Apple is trying to force me into a technology that I have tried, and do not 
>> like.  I don't want Face ID.  I don't need a ginormous screen.  I sure as 
>> h*** don't need three cameras.  I'm starting to wonder if my next phone will 
>> be a cheapy that makes calls and texts, and I do the rest from my Mac.  I 
>> don't want some giant tech company to dictate how I will use technology.  If 
>> Apple wants to continue to promote face recognition to the exclusion of more 
>> convenient technologies, that's their prerogative.  But they should have 
>> kept a touch option available for those of us who tried face ID and know it 
>> sucks.  And as for the new flick up for home?  It sucks, too.  Being able to 
>> quickly press a home button--be it actual or virtual--was much more 
>> efficient.  My only power--small though it may be--is my purchasing power.  
>> And I am really wondering if my next phone will be a non-Apple product.
>> 
>> I know this is only tangentially related to the start-up chime, but I feel 
>> it's all part of the same thing.  Why not leave the chime enabled, or at 
>> least make it an option for those who want it?  Why should Apple be deciding 
>> this for us?  They seem to want to make an argument that they are not 
>> big-brotherish, but actually, they're no better than the rest.
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 7:51 PM, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Stupid that they removed it.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/31/18, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi shaun,
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah the line in the web page details that say:
>>>> Feature removed by apple on latest firmware, doesn't work anymore.”
>>>> Kind of says to me that this doesn’t work anymore.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh well, other people can keep trying.
>>>> 
>>>> From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, 31 August 2018 6:03 PM
>>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Mac OS Start up Chimes
>>>> 
>>>> There is no proof that this command works. I've heard from experts that it
>>>> doesn't but go ahead and try it yourself.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Shawn,
>>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>>>> 
>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Anders Holmberg
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Found this link.
>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tutorial-disable-auto-boot-on-new-macbook-pros.2011044/
>>>> Try that and see if it helps.
>>>> /A
>>>> 
>>>> 29 aug. 2018 kl. 11:32 skrev Simon Fogarty
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Listers
>>>> 
>>>> Ok so I'm kind of getting  hacked off with the fact my new work Mac Book 
>>>> Pro
>>>> doesn't do the start up chimes that Apple / mac computers have done since
>>>> long before I started using Mac products.
>>>> 
>>>> I've got VO starting at log in but when for some reason I need to force
>>>> restart for some unknown reason, if I use the power button to turn off / on
>>>> the machine I never know when it's restarting until it starts talking to
>>>> me,
>>>> If I'm lucky enough for vo to still be talking.I know this effects us all,
>>>> But have we ever or has anyone ever contacted Apple accessibility to 
>>>> explain
>>>> that this chime at start up would be really useful to us the sight impaired
>>>> to know when / if our machines are starting up
>>>> Or do in my case I just keep thinking the batteries dead and put it on 
>>>> mains
>>>> power when I don't need to.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Slightly P'd off mac book pro user.
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