Yeah, the watch thing is big for me. I'm planning to get the new Apple Watch when it comes out, and as we all know, that speaks to continuing to use an iPhone. Cheers, Donna
> On Sep 2, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi! > Try Android at least before you judge. > I sometimes am a bit tired as there seem to be no good accessible watch for > me using android ware. > /A > >> 2 sep. 2018 kl. 03:15 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected]>: >> >> Hi Anders, >> >> That was my experience back in 2010. I would have hoped that things would >> have improved. Part of what I'm wrestling with is whether to try a new OS, >> or just live with Apple. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> I am kind of half android and half Apple user. >>> To be honest i don’t know what way to go. >>> I have both the old Iphone Se, an Ipad mini 3 and an Ipad mini 4 plus 2 mac >>> computers. >>> BUt i also have an android phone which is a Nokia 8. >>> One thing i don’t like about android is that for me it is harder to use the >>> screenReader and its commands. >>> Maybe its because i am more used to use the apple products. >>> But to me it seems that VoiceOver is better implemented into the Ios than >>> Talkback are into Android. >>> If i said this on the eyes-free list they’ll cut my Head *lol*. >>> /A >>> >>>> 1 sep. 2018 kl. 04:16 skrev David Chittenden <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> I am waiting to see what Apple shows in two weeks. >>>> >>>> I have already switched to a touchscreen windows convertible. >>>> >>>> I actually do like face ID. But, I also want the fingerprint sensor. >>>> >>>> I love the Apple Watch and the AirPods. That said, I am much more closely >>>> watching Android devices. I have found a few Braille Screen input type >>>> apps on the Google Play store which I will soon be testing on my old Nexus >>>> 9. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 1 Sep 2018, at 11:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You know, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling frustrated with >>>>> Apple. I was really hoping that the new iPhone models would include an >>>>> option for a faster iPhone 8. Face ID sucks. It takes significantly >>>>> longer to unlock your phone, and is much more finicky. I'm feeling >>>>> resentful that Apple is trying to force me into a technology that I have >>>>> tried, and do not like. I don't want Face ID. I don't need a ginormous >>>>> screen. I sure as h*** don't need three cameras. I'm starting to wonder >>>>> if my next phone will be a cheapy that makes calls and texts, and I do >>>>> the rest from my Mac. I don't want some giant tech company to dictate >>>>> how I will use technology. If Apple wants to continue to promote face >>>>> recognition to the exclusion of more convenient technologies, that's >>>>> their prerogative. But they should have kept a touch option available >>>>> for those of us who tried face ID and know it sucks. And as for the new >>>>> flick up for home? It sucks, too. Being able to quickly press a home >>>>> button--be it actual or virtual--was much more efficient. My only >>>>> power--small though it may be--is my purchasing power. And I am really >>>>> wondering if my next phone will be a non-Apple product. >>>>> >>>>> I know this is only tangentially related to the start-up chime, but I >>>>> feel it's all part of the same thing. Why not leave the chime enabled, >>>>> or at least make it an option for those who want it? Why should Apple be >>>>> deciding this for us? They seem to want to make an argument that they >>>>> are not big-brotherish, but actually, they're no better than the rest. >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 7:51 PM, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Stupid that they removed it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/31/18, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi shaun, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah the line in the web page details that say: >>>>>>> Feature removed by apple on latest firmware, doesn't work anymore.” >>>>>>> Kind of says to me that this doesn’t work anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh well, other people can keep trying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 31 August 2018 6:03 PM >>>>>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mac OS Start up Chimes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no proof that this command works. I've heard from experts that >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> doesn't but go ahead and try it yourself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Shawn, >>>>>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>> Facetime: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Anders Holmberg >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> Found this link. >>>>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tutorial-disable-auto-boot-on-new-macbook-pros.2011044/ >>>>>>> Try that and see if it helps. >>>>>>> /A >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 29 aug. 2018 kl. 11:32 skrev Simon Fogarty >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Listers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok so I'm kind of getting hacked off with the fact my new work Mac >>>>>>> Book Pro >>>>>>> doesn't do the start up chimes that Apple / mac computers have done >>>>>>> since >>>>>>> long before I started using Mac products. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got VO starting at log in but when for some reason I need to force >>>>>>> restart for some unknown reason, if I use the power button to turn off >>>>>>> / on >>>>>>> the machine I never know when it's restarting until it starts talking to >>>>>>> me, >>>>>>> If I'm lucky enough for vo to still be talking.I know this effects us >>>>>>> all, >>>>>>> But have we ever or has anyone ever contacted Apple accessibility to >>>>>>> explain >>>>>>> that this chime at start up would be really useful to us the sight >>>>>>> impaired >>>>>>> to know when / if our machines are starting up >>>>>>> Or do in my case I just keep thinking the batteries dead and put it on >>>>>>> mains >>>>>>> power when I don't need to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any thoughts appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Slightly P'd off mac book pro user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if >>>>>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>>> owners or >>>>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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