Hi Donna,

I would say this shortly, I really wish You the best experience with android,

but android platform and ios platform are two diferent galaxys.

Believe me, I agree with You in some aspects about what You said before about apple but switch to android because of this will bring You what I believe will be waste of money and time.

Sorry if anyone is offended, this is my particular point of view when I compare these two platforms.

In order to master an android device You will need to take a deep breath, be really patient, have a lot of free time and finally being really really curious to find tweaks and tricks that are not in any written manual.

Just my thoughts.



Leo Bado

El 01/09/2018 a las 19:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries escribió:
Hi Andrew,

I'll be curious about your experiences.  I think I'll start taking a more 
serious look at Android phones, but I'll be slow about actually switching OSes.
Cheers,
Donna

On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:16 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Donna,

I too have just started experimenting with Android.  It seems that it’s moved 
on quite a bit with TalkBack, and I feel I’m going to fall in love with it 
slowly given the number of phones one can choose from.

Andrew
On Sep 1, 2018, at 12:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Yeah, I may start experimenting with Android.  I had an Android phone back in 
2010 and hated it, but the experience has probably changed a bit since then.

I hope you're right about touch ID, but my guess is that the only place it will 
be preserved is the iPhone SE.
Cheers,
Donna

On Sep 1, 2018, at 12:24 AM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

Donna,

I couldn't agree with you more.

I’m hoping that Apple will, in fact, maintain some form of Touch ID.  I just 
can't imagine that they would completely eliminate such a trusted form of ID 
verification.

Of course, I said the same thing about removing the headphone jack and we all 
know how that turned out (smile).

Personally, I have absolutely no desire to use Face ID.

Let's just wait and see what happens on September 12th, okay?

By the way, it is for this and other reasons why I continue to purchase and use 
Android devices; you know, just in case Apple takes this big brother thing, a 
little too far for my tastes (smile).

Mark

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From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 6:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mac OS Start up Chimes

You know, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling frustrated with 
Apple.  I was really hoping that the new iPhone models would include an option 
for a faster iPhone 8.  Face ID sucks.  It takes significantly longer to unlock 
your phone, and is much more finicky.  I'm feeling resentful that Apple is 
trying to force me into a technology that I have tried, and do not like.  I 
don't want Face ID.  I don't need a ginormous screen.  I sure as h*** don't 
need three cameras.  I'm starting to wonder if my next phone will be a cheapy 
that makes calls and texts, and I do the rest from my Mac.  I don't want some 
giant tech company to dictate how I will use technology.  If Apple wants to 
continue to promote face recognition to the exclusion of more convenient 
technologies, that's their prerogative.  But they should have kept a touch 
option available for those of us who tried face ID and know it sucks.  And as 
for the new flick up for home?  It sucks, too.  Being able to quickly press a 
home button--be it actual or virtual--was much more efficient.  My only 
power--small though it may be--is my purchasing power.  And I am really 
wondering if my next phone will be a non-Apple product.

I know this is only tangentially related to the start-up chime, but I feel it's 
all part of the same thing.  Why not leave the chime enabled, or at least make 
it an option for those who want it?  Why should Apple be deciding this for us?  
They seem to want to make an argument that they are not big-brotherish, but 
actually, they're no better than the rest.
Donna

On Aug 31, 2018, at 7:51 PM, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote:

Stupid that they removed it.

On 8/31/18, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi shaun,

Yeah the line in the web page details that say:
Feature removed by apple on latest firmware, doesn't work anymore.”
Kind of says to me that this doesn’t work anymore.

Oh well, other people can keep trying.

From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 31 August 2018 6:03 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mac OS Start up Chimes

There is no proof that this command works. I've heard from experts
that it doesn't but go ahead and try it yourself.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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On Aug 29, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Anders Holmberg
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi!
Found this link.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tutorial-disable-auto-boot-on-ne
w-macbook-pros.2011044/
Try that and see if it helps.
/A

29 aug. 2018 kl. 11:32 skrev Simon Fogarty
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

Hi Listers

Ok so I'm kind of getting  hacked off with the fact my new work Mac
Book Pro doesn't do the start up chimes that Apple / mac computers
have done since long before I started using Mac products.

I've got VO starting at log in but when for some reason I need to
force restart for some unknown reason, if I use the power button to
turn off / on the machine I never know when it's restarting until it
starts talking to me, If I'm lucky enough for vo to still be
talking.I know this effects us all, But have we ever or has anyone
ever contacted Apple accessibility to explain that this chime at
start up would be really useful to us the sight impaired to know when
/ if our machines are starting up Or do in my case I just keep
thinking the batteries dead and put it on mains power when I don't
need to.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Regards

Slightly P'd off mac book pro user.

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