Hello Mike,

I have now just done that. VoiceOver died during the migration assistant so I 
left it over night. CMD + F5 has brought Daniel back. However, no braille. Has 
USB braille support for the Brailliant displays been deprecated? How do I 
review VoiceOver crash logs?

Yes I’ve heard of anecdotal references to doing a clean install but where is 
the scientific evidence? One person doesn’t make scientific evidence and we 
have other things to do. I’m sure I am not the only one to apply time saving 
measures to activities in my life. After all, Apple would force a fresh install 
if it was absolutely necessary.

I had no intention of upgrading but the nags to upgrade became a pain.

Regards,

Gena

> On 14 Jan 2019, at 00:38, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> First thing I would do is erase the drive and do a clean fresh install. I 
> always do this every time a new major release comes out, it takes longer but 
> avoids these kinds of problems.
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have a Mac Mini 2013 with 16GB of RAM. All previous upgrades have gone 
>> well. However, just before Christmas I upgraded to Mojave and I keep having 
>> some kind of VoiceOver crash. I have reinstalled Mojave 3 times now. Each 
>> time it works well for a week or so. Then I get busy notices. I can leave it 
>> and it doesn't calm down. If I CMD + tab it crashes i.e. VoiceOver will not 
>> talk nor restart. When I try to restart although VO does not speak sound has 
>> not crashed as time announcements are announced as configured. I have set 
>> all voice output to Daniel. If I leave the machine for a while the same 
>> crash occurs. I can CMD + w and q in an attempt to close running 
>> applications. I can Eject + CTL and shutdown which works. It is something to 
>> do with VoiceOver but I haven't seen anyone else have the same issues. I 
>> have a Brailliant 40 display connected via USB which doesn't work during 
>> normal operation. However, it does during the install process.
>> 
>> I intended upon doing a fresh install last time but neglected to wipe the 
>> disk first.
>> 
>> How do I look through the logs to see what is going on? If a clean fresh 
>> install does not fix these issues. What other investigations can I undertake?
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Call: M0EBP
>> Loc: IO83PS
>> 
>> 
>> 
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