Hello, Only will I take such a step if I can read the log that states what has gone wrong. Just blindly doing something that has been done with the clean fresh install seems like a waste of time.
Regards, > On 14 Jan 2019, at 15:16, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Gena, > Scientific evidence? Hmm. Well who knows but if you had done a clean > install at the outset... > > One thing you might try is to wipe the Voiceover settings and reset them > from scratch. > > Same thing with the braille display. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 1/13/2019 11:53 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >> Hello Mike, >> I have now just done that. VoiceOver died during the migration assistant so >> I left it over night. CMD + F5 has brought Daniel back. However, no braille. >> Has USB braille support for the Brailliant displays been deprecated? How do >> I review VoiceOver crash logs? >> Yes I’ve heard of anecdotal references to doing a clean install but where is >> the scientific evidence? One person doesn’t make scientific evidence and we >> have other things to do. I’m sure I am not the only one to apply time saving >> measures to activities in my life. After all, Apple would force a fresh >> install if it was absolutely necessary. >> I had no intention of upgrading but the nags to upgrade became a pain. >> Regards, >> Gena >>> On 14 Jan 2019, at 00:38, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net >>> <mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: >>> >>> First thing I would do is erase the drive and do a clean fresh install. I >>> always do this every time a new major release comes out, it takes longer >>> but avoids these kinds of problems. >>> >>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk >>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I have a Mac Mini 2013 with 16GB of RAM. All previous upgrades have gone >>>> well. However, just before Christmas I upgraded to Mojave and I keep >>>> having some kind of VoiceOver crash. I have reinstalled Mojave 3 times >>>> now. Each time it works well for a week or so. Then I get busy notices. I >>>> can leave it and it doesn't calm down. If I CMD + tab it crashes i.e. >>>> VoiceOver will not talk nor restart. When I try to restart although VO >>>> does not speak sound has not crashed as time announcements are announced >>>> as configured. I have set all voice output to Daniel. If I leave the >>>> machine for a while the same crash occurs. I can CMD + w and q in an >>>> attempt to close running applications. I can Eject + CTL and shutdown >>>> which works. It is something to do with VoiceOver but I haven't seen >>>> anyone else have the same issues. I have a Brailliant 40 display connected >>>> via USB which doesn't work during normal operation. However, it does >>>> during the install process. >>>> >>>> I intended upon doing a fresh install last time but neglected to wipe the >>>> disk first. >>>> >>>> How do I look through the logs to see what is going on? If a clean fresh >>>> install does not fix these issues. What other investigations can I >>>> undertake? >>>> >>>> Any help would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Gena >>>> >>>> Call: M0EBP >>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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