it could still be useful !to try with a new account on your machine. Just go 
into system preferences and click the add account button. After testing it is 
just as easy to delete the account.


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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan,
> 
> As I have said and now Jason has said. It has worked previously but doesn’t 
> work now. You have the newer version. If Apple are going to deprecate braille 
> support for certain braille displays then they should be open with the 
> community. But as I sent the text from the accessibility team suggests that 
> this problem is not intentional and they are looking into it.
> 
> I’ll state again. The Brailliant worked on previous versions of OS X and 
> works on the installer of Mojave but when Mojave is installed the display 
> does not work. I hope the accessibility team are genuine in stating that it 
> is being looked at.
> 
> Good for you in that you have a newer model but your observations do not 
> apply to the original Brailliant.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>> On 16 Jan 2019, at 03:26, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> will, as I stated in another message, 
>> I am able 
>> to use a Braillan with current birmware on my MacBook Air. One question that 
>> did come up on this thread was if it could emulate another display, I did  
>> find a protocol setting that can be changed to  OpenBraile I did not see any 
>> other modes available. 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Here’s a response from accessibility:
>>> 
>>> Hello Gena,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you 
>>> know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on 
>>> when it may be resolved.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Apple Accessibility
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Jan 2019, at 18:33, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> As I stated the display works well during the install. Well in it’s 8 dot 
>>>> messy braille way. It bleeps through out the boot process so the Mac sees 
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Hmm, if the brailliant worked in previous versions that’s very strange 
>>>>> indeed.
>>>>> I don’t have a brailliant but can’t the brailliant displays emulate 
>>>>> Handytech displays?
>>>>> You might try that first.
>>>>> Does other things work on this port you connected your braille display to?
>>>>> Might be worth checking.
>>>>> /A
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 14 jan. 2019 kl. 08:53 skrev Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have now just done that. VoiceOver died during the migration assistant 
>>>>>> so I left it over night. CMD + F5 has brought Daniel back. However, no 
>>>>>> braille. Has USB braille support for the Brailliant displays been 
>>>>>> deprecated? How do I review VoiceOver crash logs?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes I’ve heard of anecdotal references to doing a clean install but 
>>>>>> where is the scientific evidence? One person doesn’t make scientific 
>>>>>> evidence and we have other things to do. I’m sure I am not the only one 
>>>>>> to apply time saving measures to activities in my life. After all, Apple 
>>>>>> would force a fresh install if it was absolutely necessary.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had no intention of upgrading but the nags to upgrade became a pain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14 Jan 2019, at 00:38, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First thing I would do is erase the drive and do a clean fresh install. 
>>>>>>> I always do this every time a new major release comes out, it takes 
>>>>>>> longer but avoids these kinds of problems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have a Mac Mini 2013 with 16GB of RAM. All previous upgrades have 
>>>>>>>> gone well. However, just before Christmas I upgraded to Mojave and I 
>>>>>>>> keep having some kind of VoiceOver crash. I have reinstalled Mojave 3 
>>>>>>>> times now. Each time it works well for a week or so. Then I get busy 
>>>>>>>> notices. I can leave it and it doesn't calm down. If I CMD + tab it 
>>>>>>>> crashes i.e. VoiceOver will not talk nor restart. When I try to 
>>>>>>>> restart although VO does not speak sound has not crashed as time 
>>>>>>>> announcements are announced as configured. I have set all voice output 
>>>>>>>> to Daniel. If I leave the machine for a while the same crash occurs. I 
>>>>>>>> can CMD + w and q in an attempt to close running applications. I can 
>>>>>>>> Eject + CTL and shutdown which works. It is something to do with 
>>>>>>>> VoiceOver but I haven't seen anyone else have the same issues. I have 
>>>>>>>> a Brailliant 40 display connected via USB which doesn't work during 
>>>>>>>> normal operation. However, it does during the install process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I intended upon doing a fresh install last time but neglected to wipe 
>>>>>>>> the disk first.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How do I look through the logs to see what is going on? If a clean 
>>>>>>>> fresh install does not fix these issues. What other investigations can 
>>>>>>>> I undertake?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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