Hi,

It probably wouldn't hurt to give them a note saying what the problem was.  VO 
does this often when it comes to the buffer.  I think what is happening is that 
VO is taking note of the various items on the page, for use by the Item Chooser 
or various rotor controls.  Sometimes, even with my MBP with 16 GB of RAM, this 
takes a bit of work to complete.  I'm not sure if something can be done, or if 
their developers could come up with a different algorithm for gathering the 
page data.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 14, 2019, at 12:15, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi!
I actually resolved the problem by first changing navigation from dom to 
grouping or what’s it called in Vo?
Then nothing happend but i turned off Vo and did the command tab and turned Vo 
on and that made it.
So i could finish the order i did for my cofee.
I wonder if it would help us with such problems to write about this to the 
accessibility team?
Can they do something about this Vo buffer thing?
/A

> 14 feb. 2019 kl. 16:09 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When you pressed the cmd-option-Escape, did the Force Quit window present 
> itself?  If not then press cmd-tab to get out of the Safari app, then press 
> cmd-option-Escape and see if it comes up then.  When in the Force Quit 
> window, interact with the table and check the status of Safari and any other 
> app you care to look at.  Any app that is running normally, usually won't 
> announce anything and just move on to the next app.  Apps that are causing 
> grief, will usually announce "Not Responding" when you VO-right of the app 
> title.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 14, 2019, at 06:38, Anders Holmberg <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> When i do this it seems to say nothing from what i remember.
> SO this might be a Vo thing.
> /A
> 
> 
>> 13 feb. 2019 kl. 23:58 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree with Jonathan in that resetting PRAM or SMC would not be useful for 
>> this situation.  If you do a cmd-option-escape, does it say that Safari is 
>> "not responding"?  This might tell us if it is a VO in Safari thing, or just 
>> Safari.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 15:27, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> What happens with web sites that ask to use the Microphone or WebCam? I 
>> would expect in Mojave there would be some security check. If so this would 
>> probably be a security agent window, and would perhaps make the Safari go 
>> busy. 
>> 
>> Also, I highly doubt that resetting the SMC / PRAM would make any difference 
>> at all.
>>  
>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 3:07 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Try turning off VO, then press cmd-tab to take you out of Safari, then turn 
>>> VO back on and cmd-tab back to Safari.  See it it behaves better after VO 
>>> has been restarted.  Sometimes the VO buffer gets cranky.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32, Anders Holmberg <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I am about to buy Coffeebeans from a page here in Sweden.
>>> It works like a charm until i choose the paying method.
>>> When i press the method i want i am taken to a site where i should accept 
>>> some terms and after that safari goes busy but stops when i quit.
>>> Any setting that might be wrong or other things i could try?
>>> I have used clean my mac to clear out system junk and such so i don’t get 
>>> what’s causing the issue.
>>> /A
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