HI Mark,

 Kevin doesn’t' want to change his apple id but move them so the icloud address 
is the primary in his mail account,
And the me.comm becomes his alias 
  The apple id should't be changed,
 My apple id's are all alias addresses to my primary mail box.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2019 3:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address 
when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent 
this

Hello Tim,

Thank you for the follow up.  

Yes, I see the problem with my suggestion.

Based on my understanding, Apple states that an Apple ID cannot be changed if 
the ID is an @me.com, @Mac.com or @iCloud.com address.

Were Kevin's primary email address a third-party email, then he could, indeed, 
promote and @me, @Mac, or @iCloud alias to become his new Apple ID.  However, 
once having done that, he would not be able to change that ID, again.  The 
point is that once any Apple-owned domain email is set as an Apple ID, that's 
it.  

Actually, now that I think about it; I have done this, myself.  This is to say, 
I removed an alias from one of my Apple accounts and in less than a minute, I 
was able to use it as an Apple ID.  

So, assuming this is still the case, Cannot Kevin separate the alias from his 
old Apple ID and then, simply merge the two IDs into one?  I know that Apple 
does allow this.  I believe that this would preserve his purchase history, etc. 
 

Mark

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address 
when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent 
this

Hi mark,

At the moment, his primary eMail address for the Apple ID is the older me.com 
address with the iCloud being an alias of the older original address.  Yes, one 
could delete the alias and create a separate Apple ID for this, but that does 
two negative things.  First, if any purchases are connected to the origianal 
Apple ID, they would no longer be associated with the iCloud address which is 
the one he now uses.  Second, I believe that the iCloud alias address would be 
reserved for a period of time even though it has been deleted, thus making it 
unusable until it is released for use.  Sorry, I did send the primary 
instructions to Kevin off-list already, although he told me that it didn't work 
for him.  Essentially, what I suggested was to promote the iCloud address to be 
the primary Apple ID instead of the older me.com address.  This should make it 
so that the outgoing messages are definitely coming from the iCloud address.

Apple outlines the process here.

After this has been done, I believe that the problem should be solved.  
Although, Kevin mentioned that he was unsuccessful.  We will be connecting in a 
more direct way hopefully tomorrow to see where the problem lies.  This process 
is sound and should work and after 30 days or so, he should be able to delete 
the older me.com address.  It will likely remain unable to be deleted initially 
as it takes a bit to release the primary address as far as I'm aware.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2019, at 20:38, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Kevin and Tim,

Unless list members have some kind of objection, I would ask that this thread 
remain, on-list, as I would like to learn of Tim's solution to this problem.

Tim, as I see it, cannot Kevin simply remove his iCloud alias from his @me.com 
Apple ID and turn it into its own, independent, Apple ID?

Mark


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:07 AM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail address 
when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to prevent 
this

Tim,
YOu've got it exactly.  If you can lend a hand, please let me know best way to 
contact you privately.  You can keep the thread here if you like.

thanks in advance,
Kevin

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
Guys, 

Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my [email protected] 
address.  This address is now long dead.  I have since unsubscribed and 
resubscribed to this mailing list using [email protected].  However, even 
though my e-mails from this list come to my iCloud address, hitting reply 
automatically populates the sending address as [email protected].  If I don’t 
happen to remember to click on the outgoing address and change it to 
[email protected], the mail will be sent to nowhere and it will take a few 
days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t heard from whatever I asked 
about is because nobody saw what I wrote.   

I have tried my best to make sure that [email protected] is toast.  It is no 
longer present as a sender’s e-mail address.  But it remains as an option in 
the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails.  In fact, if I 
am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud account, initiating 
a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with [email protected], 
regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the From field.  I can’t 
remove this me.com address as an option in the From field no matter what I do.  
Can anyone help?   

Thanks, 
Kevin
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