Thanks, Ricardo. I'm definitely going to have to play around with this. Best, Donna On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi Donna, > > It's control option command shift right bracket twice. > > hth > On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Ah! OK, got it. So how do you set a sweet spot? >> Thanks, >> Donna >> On Feb 12, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> A sweet spot is a position on a web page you have designated voiceover to >>> be on as soon as you go to the site. web spots are just key positions on a >>> page that you have set or Voiceover has set automatically. Btw. VO >>> command right bracket takes you forward through your manually set web >>> spots, and VO command left bracket will navigate backwards. VO command N >>> will cycle you through the auto webspots set by Voiceover. >>> >>> hth >>> On Feb 12, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> This may be a dumb question, but is there a difference between web spots >>>> and sweet spots? >>>> TIA, >>>> Donna >>>> On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would also point out that if you use the Web Spot feature, it is quite >>>>> accurate indeed. I have a sweet spot set for a number of locations on the >>>>> banking website I use and it surely is the greatest thing for making >>>>> navigation of a site efficient. I have it setup so as soon as the page >>>>> loads, I'm on the location to enter my login info. Once I'm logged in, I >>>>> am immediately on the list of accounts and on the balance information. If >>>>> folks have not really explored the possibilities of Web/sweet spots, do >>>>> yourself a favor and give them a try, they are very useful. >>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> If I may, I would like to point out that all navigation through elements >>>>>> on a web page can be done with one hand and you don't need to remember a >>>>>> lot of keys. When in dom. mode, press the left and right arrows at the >>>>>> same time to enter quick nav mode. Now, press the left-up or right-up >>>>>> to cycle through the navigation items in the roter. Then, navigate >>>>>> through the chosen element with the up or down keys. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as returning to the prior place in a web page, I have not found >>>>>> it to be non existent. There are many times that it works, although, I >>>>>> would like to see it work more consistently. I haven't found any screen >>>>>> reader do it very well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would also like to say that I never found any of the vo key strokes to >>>>>> be difficult and I never understood why some people seemed to have such >>>>>> a hang-up with them. There are some circumstances where one might need >>>>>> to perform a task with only one hand, and I think that it was some what >>>>>> of a legitimate concern earlier on. As I pointed out however, that >>>>>> issue has been addressed with quick nav. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>>>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the >>>>>>> differences between moving around on a page among elements with Window >>>>>>> Eyes or Jaws and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much >>>>>>> difference between pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys >>>>>>> in addition to h to move among headers. And you say this is easily done >>>>>>> with one hand? You must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've >>>>>>> been touch typing for decades. It gets even more interesting when you >>>>>>> add the shift into the mix to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? >>>>>>> yes? As easy as pressing one key? Not by a long shot. Are there other >>>>>>> benefits, such as not having to go in and out of forms mode? for sure. >>>>>>> The added functionality for VO on the web in Snow Leopard is one of the >>>>>>> main reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really appreciate the numpad >>>>>>> commander, although learning it was not as intuitive as learning >>>>>>> mnemonics on the regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as efficient >>>>>>> for me as having that array of single letter keystrokes that let me >>>>>>> move among various web elements at will. Another thing I hope can be >>>>>>> implemented in the future is a means of letting focus return to where >>>>>>> it was when you return back to a previously visited page. That's a big >>>>>>> time saver with the Windows screen readers, although it doesn't always >>>>>>> work. Its nonexistent with vo. I like the fact that pages seem to load >>>>>>> faster with Safari than they do with IE and a screen reader. Over all, >>>>>>> for me, the Windows experience is still more efficient. But there are >>>>>>> pluses with the Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep improving. Group mode >>>>>>> is something I have tried and dropped. I just never found a page where >>>>>>> it seemed to offer any advantage, since I don't really care how the >>>>>>> page is laid out. I want info and where it is on the page just doesn't >>>>>>> seem very important to me, so long as I can get to it efficiently. >>>>>>> Maybe I don't go to the right sites where group mode's benefits are >>>>>>> displayed to best advantage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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