Hi, Yeah, I know about the keyboard commander. I'd prefer to be able to replace the current keystroke, which is really what I want and not have two keystrokes for the same function. Not that it matters much, but I like not having things cluttered so I can free up space for other commands.
Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: [email protected] AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Feb 12, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Don't you have Snow Leopard? If so, use the keyboard commander to redefine > the keys you can't reach. > The keyboard commander can be found in the voiceover utilities app reached by > vo+f8. > Hth. > /Krister > > 12 feb 2010 kl. 12.44 skrev Nicolai Svendsen: > >> Hi, >> >> I wish I could redefine default keyboard commands. Like VO-Backslash. >> Impossible to do on a Danish keyboard, as you need Option for backslash. Oh, >> and I wish my bank site was accessible. It is on Windows for the most part, >> but VO doesn't like it and the site recommends that I use Safari. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> See you learn something new every day, even this old grumpy man. Have to >>> redefine keyboard shortcuts though, i can't use existing ones due to the >>> keyboard layout of a swedish keyboard. This isn't VOs fault though. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> 12 feb 2010 kl. 12.00 skrev Scott Howell: >>> >>>> I would also point out that if you use the Web Spot feature, it is quite >>>> accurate indeed. I have a sweet spot set for a number of locations on the >>>> banking website I use and it surely is the greatest thing for making >>>> navigation of a site efficient. I have it setup so as soon as the page >>>> loads, I'm on the location to enter my login info. Once I'm logged in, I >>>> am immediately on the list of accounts and on the balance information. If >>>> folks have not really explored the possibilities of Web/sweet spots, do >>>> yourself a favor and give them a try, they are very useful. >>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> If I may, I would like to point out that all navigation through elements >>>>> on a web page can be done with one hand and you don't need to remember a >>>>> lot of keys. When in dom. mode, press the left and right arrows at the >>>>> same time to enter quick nav mode. Now, press the left-up or right-up to >>>>> cycle through the navigation items in the roter. Then, navigate through >>>>> the chosen element with the up or down keys. >>>>> >>>>> As far as returning to the prior place in a web page, I have not found it >>>>> to be non existent. There are many times that it works, although, I >>>>> would like to see it work more consistently. I haven't found any screen >>>>> reader do it very well. >>>>> >>>>> I would also like to say that I never found any of the vo key strokes to >>>>> be difficult and I never understood why some people seemed to have such a >>>>> hang-up with them. There are some circumstances where one might need to >>>>> perform a task with only one hand, and I think that it was some what of a >>>>> legitimate concern earlier on. As I pointed out however, that issue has >>>>> been addressed with quick nav. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the >>>>>> differences between moving around on a page among elements with Window >>>>>> Eyes or Jaws and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much >>>>>> difference between pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in >>>>>> addition to h to move among headers. And you say this is easily done >>>>>> with one hand? You must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've >>>>>> been touch typing for decades. It gets even more interesting when you >>>>>> add the shift into the mix to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? >>>>>> yes? As easy as pressing one key? Not by a long shot. Are there other >>>>>> benefits, such as not having to go in and out of forms mode? for sure. >>>>>> The added functionality for VO on the web in Snow Leopard is one of the >>>>>> main reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really appreciate the numpad >>>>>> commander, although learning it was not as intuitive as learning >>>>>> mnemonics on the regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as efficient >>>>>> for me as having that array of single letter keystrokes that let me move >>>>>> among various web elements at will. Another thing I hope can be >>>>>> implemented in the future is a means of letting focus return to where it >>>>>> was when you return back to a previously visited page. That's a big time >>>>>> saver with the Windows screen readers, although it doesn't always work. >>>>>> Its nonexistent with vo. I like the fact that pages seem to load faster >>>>>> with Safari than they do with IE and a screen reader. Over all, for me, >>>>>> the Windows experience is still more efficient. But there are pluses >>>>>> with the Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is >>>>>> something I have tried and dropped. I just never found a page where it >>>>>> seemed to offer any advantage, since I don't really care how the page is >>>>>> laid out. I want info and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very >>>>>> important to me, so long as I can get to it efficiently. Maybe I don't >>>>>> go to the right sites where group mode's benefits are displayed to best >>>>>> advantage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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