Hi Nic,

Have you tried using the "Develop" menu in Safari to try to trick the site into 
thinking that you are using FireFox? I think you can find the checkbox for this 
menu under the "Advanced" settings.

TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
On 12 Feb 2010, at 11:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I mean Firefox. Oops.
> 
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> On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I wish I could redefine default keyboard commands. Like VO-Backslash. 
>> Impossible to do on a Danish keyboard, as you need Option for backslash. Oh, 
>> and I wish my bank site was accessible. It is on Windows for the most part, 
>> but VO doesn't like it and the site recommends that I use Safari.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> See you learn something new every day, even this old grumpy man. Have to 
>>> redefine keyboard shortcuts though, i can't use existing ones due to the 
>>> keyboard layout of a swedish keyboard. This isn't VOs fault though.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 12 feb 2010 kl. 12.00 skrev Scott Howell:
>>> 
>>>> I would also point out that if you use the Web Spot feature, it is quite 
>>>> accurate indeed. I have a sweet spot set for a number of locations on the 
>>>> banking website I use and it surely is the greatest thing for making 
>>>> navigation of a site efficient. I have it setup so as soon as the page 
>>>> loads, I'm on the location to enter my login info. Once I'm logged in, I 
>>>> am immediately on the list of accounts and on the balance information. If 
>>>> folks have not really explored the possibilities of Web/sweet spots, do 
>>>> yourself a favor and give them a try, they are very useful.
>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I may, I would like to point out that all navigation through elements 
>>>>> on a web page can be done with one hand and you don't need to remember a 
>>>>> lot of keys.  When in dom. mode, press the left and right arrows at the 
>>>>> same time to enter quick nav mode.  Now, press the left-up or right-up to 
>>>>> cycle through the navigation items in the roter.  Then, navigate through 
>>>>> the chosen element with the up or down keys.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as returning to the prior place in a web page, I have not found it 
>>>>> to be non existent.  There are many times that it works, although, I 
>>>>> would like to see it work more consistently.  I haven't found any screen 
>>>>> reader do it very well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would also like to say that I never found any of the vo key strokes to 
>>>>> be difficult and I never understood why some people seemed to have such a 
>>>>> hang-up with them.  There are some circumstances where one might need to 
>>>>> perform a task with only one hand, and I think that it was some what of a 
>>>>> legitimate concern earlier on.  As I pointed out however, that issue has 
>>>>> been addressed with quick nav.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the 
>>>>>> differences between moving around on a page among elements with Window 
>>>>>> Eyes or Jaws and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much 
>>>>>> difference between pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in 
>>>>>> addition to h to move among headers. And you say this is easily done 
>>>>>> with one hand? You must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've 
>>>>>> been touch typing for decades. It gets even more interesting when you 
>>>>>> add the shift into the mix to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? 
>>>>>> yes? As easy as pressing one key? Not by a long shot. Are there other 
>>>>>> benefits, such as not having to go in and out of forms mode? for sure. 
>>>>>> The added functionality for VO on the web in Snow Leopard is one of the 
>>>>>> main reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really appreciate the numpad 
>>>>>> commander, although learning it was not as intuitive as learning 
>>>>>> mnemonics on the regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as efficient 
>>>>>> for me as having that array of single letter keystrokes that let me move 
>>>>>> among various web elements at will. Another thing I hope can be 
>>>>>> implemented in the future is a means of letting focus return to where it 
>>>>>> was when you return back to a previously visited page. That's a big time 
>>>>>> saver with the Windows screen readers, although it  doesn't always work. 
>>>>>> Its nonexistent with vo. I like the fact that pages seem to load faster 
>>>>>> with Safari than they do with IE and a screen reader. Over all, for me, 
>>>>>> the Windows experience is still more efficient. But there are pluses 
>>>>>> with the Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is 
>>>>>> something I have tried and dropped. I just never found a page where it 
>>>>>> seemed to offer any advantage, since I don't really care how the page is 
>>>>>> laid out. I want info and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very 
>>>>>> important to me, so long as I can get to it efficiently. Maybe I don't 
>>>>>> go to the right sites where group mode's benefits are displayed to best 
>>>>>> advantage.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mary
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