This conversation has been helpful.  When the control key doesn’t work I just 
start VO over again and it lasts for some time.  It may last for moments or for 
a long time. 

At least I can now get it to work.

Interesting that it consistently works on a mini.  I’m using a 2018 Mac Book 
Pro 15.

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:22 PM, matthew dyer <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> Sorry  not having this problem on a mac mini with 16 gb of ram and a 1 TB 
> SSAID  f 2018.  Also using Catilina.  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Mar 15, 2020 10:38 PM, Eric Caron <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi listers,
> 
>         I remember in the past using the control key to stop VO from talking. 
>  Than a second press to start speech again.
> 
> In the last two operating systems I don’t seem to be able to do this any 
> longer.  Am I missing something?
> 
> In most cases when I press the control key  VO just keeps talking and than at 
> the end says control.  This is because I have the modifier keys set to speak 
> when pressed.
> 
> So, for example in mail I may press down arrow to hear a message and then 
> want to stop speech with control.  I press it and it just keeps talking. 
> 
> Is there another key now to obtain silence and then return to speech?
> A little more experimentation is indicating to me that if I turn VO off and 
> on again the function seems to work again for a time.
> 
> Are others experiencing the same?
> 
> I find I have to toggle VO off and on a lot lately to get it to work 
> correctly. This happens a lot when editing text in mail.
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
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