Thanks, Brad. I knew about the number keys, but I didn't know about FN+Tab. Cheers, Donna
> On Jun 27, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: > > For those with TouchBar MacBook Pros, if you are not aware, in most > use-cases, holding down VO + Fn, will allow the number row keys to perform as > F-keys. Additionally, holding down the Fn key, will allow the Tab key to > function as the Escape key. > This should be true for all Macs running macOS 10.12 Sierra and newer. > > HTH > > - Brad - > > > On Jun 27, 2020, at 07:08, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > I would add that I also use an MBP with a touch bar. I’ve gotten used to it, > but I’m not really a fan. I love how it’s contextualized, but I almost always > have to tap it three or four times to get it to activate. Overall, I would > say using the touch bar is slower than using function keys. I’m seriously > considering going back to the Air just to get function keys back. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 27, 2020, at 4:37 AM, 'andrew' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi July. >> >> I hate my Phone. I've had three of them now and simply haven't spent enough >> time learning about the command swipes, so I just use my phone for emergency >> cover when in town. Bit of a waste eh? I like my 2013 Macbook pro as it >> has a reasonable keyboard with no swip bar and I can use a full size apple >> keyboard. So I'm not sure at all about the Air. >> >> Very best wishes. >> >> Andy. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Rattray" <julierattra...@gmail.com >> <mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com>> >> To: "'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 5:05 AM >> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro >> >> >>> Yes I use a Mac with a Touch Bar and really like it it does help with >>> certain tasks and if you are used to using the iPhone etc getting used to >>> it is not really to difficult. >>> >>>>> On 27 Jun 2020, at 04:37, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi ET, >>>> >>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro >>>> >>>> I've been looking at this too. 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