True, but I think the main difference between Mac and the PC is that PC manufacturers have extra bloatware. The author makes a great point about how doing a clean install may be faster than spending hours troubleshooting. Both Windows and Macs have the ability to detect settings from other machines on the network i.e. Mac from other Apple devices and Windows from other Windows machines. Therefore, the setup isn't as bad as it used to be.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:24 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA Certainly, it documents a preference, not a standard. Including the author stating they have not done it themselves regularly on their macbook. is it a fine choice for some? To be sure. Is it a recommendation from professionals? no. On Fri, 7 May 2021, Brad Snyder wrote: > Thanks Rebecca, > > While this article is about 7 years old, it certainly explains why wiping your drive, and reloading the OS may be a good idea for routine system health. > The article also makes it clear why I recommend making a clean start when setting up a new machine. > > - Brad - > > > On May 7, 2021, at 12:50, <skipper8...@gmail.com> <skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > I understand why Brad recommends the clean install, and this article points out the advantages for Windows and Mac. > However, I usually only reinstall Windows every few years and am so new to the Mac that I can't tell you if I will ever do a complete reinstall of the OS. > https://lifehacker.com/in-defense-of-the-clean-install-1726140915 > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen > Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 1:19 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA > > brad, > Would you provide two objective sources to document your claim that > starting clean is what professionals recommend? > Objective sources would include wire magazine for example. > If this were industry standard, the concept of backups and restorations would not be incorporated into systems, speaking personally. > So, kindly document that this is, as you say, a professional standard, > with objective published sources if you do not mind? > speaking personally, it counters the professionals I have worked with for years, but I am willing to learn from published sources. > Thanks, > Karen > > > > On Fri, 7 May 2021, Brad Snyder wrote: > >> Hi Donna, >> >> I am keeping my fingers crossed in the hope that you will have better luck with your exchanged MacBook Air. >> I am confident that you will have better luck setting up the new machine as a new computer than doing a restoration from a Time Machine backup. >> As I said before, starting clean is the recommended way to go by most IT professionals. >> I don’t think some people understand that doing a restoration from a Time Machine backup is different than using Time Machine to transfer files and other data from a backup. >> When restoring from a Time Machine backup, you are essentially wiping the destination machine, and essentially cloning the old machine onto the new machine. this transfers all the settings and configurations from the old machine to the new one. >> When considering that the M1 Macs are very different internally from the older Intel based Macs, this opens the door to a lot of compatibility conflicts, which I believe is at the root of the problems you have experienced with your new M1 MacBook Air. >> >> Please let me know how it goes with your exchanged machine. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> On May 7, 2021, at 08:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Brad, >> >> That makes two of us! I know the works out of the box thing is setting the bar kind of high, but even so, this one really takes the cake. The thing that most irritates me about all this, is that when I googled the error message about not having an available user for authorization, it was all over the internet. I followed the steps exactly as described at Apple Support, and there was no mention of the possibility of receiving that error there. Had there been, I probably wouldn't have tried to erase and reinstall. Apple really should include that in their instructions, and better yet, find a fix for it, because it really is a show-stopper. >> >> I think I've decided I'm going to do as you suggest, and exchange it. Clearly other users have not had the problems I have had, so I'll give it one more go. As for Time Machine, I will probably use it to restore files, but nothing else. It seems unlikely that the Time machine restore had anything to do with the authorization error, but who knows whether it was the cause of my original issues with Voiceover. I personally agree with others that if it's a supported method of migrating data, it shouldn't result in such major issues, but that doesn't mean it didn't. >> Take care, >> Donna >> >>> On May 6, 2021, at 9:12 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Donna, >>> >>> I am really puzzled by all the issues you have experienced trying to setup your M1 MacBook Air. >>> While I don’t have an M1 Mac at this time, I know of several others who have M1 macs, and have not experienced the problems that you’ve had with setting up your new machine. >>> I do know that the M1 is a completely different animal than the prior Intel Mac, and I can’t help but think there is something in the configurations that are brought over to your new Mac through the Time Machine backup, and are causing some kind of conflict with the M1 environment. >>> If you decide to exchange your bad M1 MacBook Air for another one, you might consider setting the new one up as a new Mac, and see if that works out any better. If you do this and still have problems, I guess you can return that one and get your money back. >>> Hopefully, you won’t have to do that. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> >>> On May 6, 2021, at 17:29, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> As I mentioned, I'll now be returning my MBA. I have to decide whether to return it, or exchange it. After my experience this week, I am very concerned that this computer just may not be ready for prime-time. 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