Also finding that the VO+shift+M menu does not always react, and requires 
turning VO off and back on to re-engage.
This reminds me of the old focus issues with keyboard in JAWS. VO seems to lose 
focus and needs a little kick in the butt to wake it up. Been happening on 
Mojave all along.

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer

On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:40 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

Yes, this does happen occasionally.  I had a possible reason for it a few years 
ago, but I can’t recall what I had come up with.  In any case, 9 times out of 
10 it will eventually quit itself.  No need to force quit.  It’s not hurting 
anything.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 8, 2021, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Les,
> 
> I have had this problem for a while now, since way before getting the new 
> Mac. I have no idea what causes it or how to solve it, but I can tell you 
> that turning VO off, waiting a couple seconds and then turning VO back on 
> usually allows Mail to close. Sorry I don’t have a better solution, but at 
> least this is better than nothing.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:52 AM, Les Kriegler <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> So after a week, I can say that things are going really well with my MacBook 
>> Air. I do have one problem which is annoying the daylights out of me. More 
>> often than not, when I quit the Mac App with Command-Q, it hangs. It will 
>> close eventually, but this does not seem to be normal behavior. I have done 
>> a Force Quit initiated with Command Option Escape, but that does not resolve 
>> this issue. Any ideas as to what I can do to get Mail to behave as it should?
>> Best,
>>  
>> Les
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