Is it my bad to choose Voiceover on Mac vs NVDA on windows (plus what makes Mac 
better for me as a developer)?!

MacBook Pro is meant for productivity and professional users, why is it my 
fault that the best way to increase my productivity to use arrow keys for 
navigation and toggling quick nav on and off?!

Getting another keyboard is just telling me that Mac mini is more portable than 
MBP.

I hope there will be better solution than moving around with an external 
keyboard and trackpad. (I mentioned trackpad since I use it in some cases were 
keyboard shortcut won’t work because of conflicts)

I hope I could get to Apple authorized service provider soon to discuss a 
solution for it.

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed 



> On 6 Jun 2021, at 6:08 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have this sort of thing happen often at work, although is is due to 
> students picking at the keys for “fun”.  Basically, the fix is often very 
> difficult or impossible.  The tiny parts and clips that hold the key in place 
> are extremely difficult to work with.  Even a sighted Tech often will give 
> up.  I’m sorry, but the easiest fix is no fix, just live with the annoyance.  
> If a Tech can fix it, it may cost you their time to do so, otherwise, it’s a 
> new keyboard, which in both cases may not be worth the money.  You may get 
> lucky depending on how bent or damaged the hardware is that holds on the key, 
> but I’ve found that it’s not an easy task for a blind user.
> 
> later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Muhammad Fayed <m10fa...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The first. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5 Jun 2021, at 11:27 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Are you saying that the button itself is broken, and will not attach to the 
>>> keyboard, or are you saying that the key is stuck and you can no longer 
>>> make it do what it’s supposed to.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Muhammad Fayed <m10fa...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> My MBP butterfly keyboard right arrow key is broken and can’t fix in its 
>>>> place any more. 
>>>> 
>>>> Any recommendations please?
>>>> 
>>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>>> 
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