Hi, Too many interactions is a matter of opinion, and a misconception from my prospective. Using the interaction model can often make your navigation much quicker than without if you use it properly. Think of it like looking for your friend’s kitchen in a town. When the interaction model is being used, the town is considered a group of items, the houses within the town are also independent groups of items within the town, and there are rooms and more within each house that are grouped and so on. So, for example, you come to the town, and there’s all these houses. You can go past all the houses that you know are not your friend’s house because there’s no need to interact with those houses. You arrive at the correct address of your friend’s house, then interact with only his house. Once inside his house, you can move through the rooms quickly finding the kitchen. You did not need to bother yourself with any other house, because it did not belong to your friend. Very quick navigation if used correctly, and if you understand the premise behind the model.
Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Dec 7, 2021, at 12:41, Muhammad Fayed <[email protected]> wrote: > > The differences are summarized in two main points from my experience: > > • on Mac, you require too many interactions, which I hope they make it less > required or add an optional mode to be similar to that of iPhone and iPad, > but remains for the application of focus. > • There are more buttons on screen of Mac and its apps compared to the > equivalent app on iPad. > > I don’t remember another difference now, since most of my usage is iPhone and > Mac. Sometimes I use the iPad to help my mother in something she can’t do > herself. > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fayed > >> On 7 Dec 2021, at 9:35 PM, Brad Snyder <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Actually, the operating environment Onamac is completely different from the >> operating environment on an iPad. With or without a touchscreen, the Mac is >> a completely different experience than an iPad. >> >> - Brad - >> >> On Dec 7, 2021, at 13:14, Rebecca Skipper <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> If Apple added touch screens to Macs, there would be no point in having an >> iPad. >> JAWS is a keyboard first option. >> I’ve never found touch screens to be very efficient outside IOS. >> >> From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:10 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows >> >> >> >> On 7/12/21 13:44, Rebecca Skipper wrote: >> The only thing Windows users can do is simulate mouse clicks with the >> keyboard or physically use the mouse. >> I think JAWS will recognize mouse movements, but this is no where near the >> Mac’s trackpad commander. >> >> There is also touch support available (with various gestures depending on >> the screen reader used), if you have a Windows device with a touch screen. I >> have a laptop that is capable of it, but I almost never use the touch input >> feature. >> >> As I recall, one of Apple's arguments for not adding touch screen input to >> Mac devices is that it's generally inconvenient to be touching a >> laptop-style, vertically oriented display frequently. I can agree with that, >> but, then, I'm faster with a keyboard anyway. >> >> Apple also offers the ability to use an iPad as an additional display for a >> Mac - I don't know how accessible this is with VoiceOver, as my iPad is too >> old for it. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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