Thanks. Yes, but I think it is important to point out that the Mac has a lot more customizations than Windows which surprises me.
Hopefully, more apps will be supported on the M1. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows Hi, No worries. I hope that this discussion is helping to clarify. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 7, 2021, at 15:37, Rebecca Skipper <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Sorry, I’m new to the Mac and am getting the terms confused. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:36 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows Hi, That is correct, although that is a different feature than Sticky Keys. VO does have the key lock as you’ve mentioned as well as single key navigation on the web. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 7, 2021, at 15:15, Rebecca Skipper <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: If I understand correctly, you can lock the VO keys with capslock +semicolon. This reduces the number of keystrokes you need which could be handy for anyone who has problems with those multi finger commands. To be fair you can have the same problem on a Windows Laptop if you can’t configure the FN key functions without going into BIOS. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Brad Snyder Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:13 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows Not really. The use of Sticky Keys is intended for individuals with dexterity issues. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 14:07, Rebecca Skipper <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Thanks. It is my understanding that there are less keys to press if you use the sticky keys option on the Mac. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Muhammad Fayed Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:42 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows The differences are summarized in two main points from my experience: • on Mac, you require too many interactions, which I hope they make it less required or add an optional mode to be similar to that of iPhone and iPad, but remains for the application of focus. • There are more buttons on screen of Mac and its apps compared to the equivalent app on iPad. I don’t remember another difference now, since most of my usage is iPhone and Mac. Sometimes I use the iPad to help my mother in something she can’t do herself. Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed On 7 Dec 2021, at 9:35 PM, Brad Snyder <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Actually, the operating environment Onamac is completely different from the operating environment on an iPad. With or without a touchscreen, the Mac is a completely different experience than an iPad. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 13:14, Rebecca Skipper <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: If Apple added touch screens to Macs, there would be no point in having an iPad. JAWS is a keyboard first option. I’ve never found touch screens to be very efficient outside IOS. From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:10 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows On 7/12/21 13:44, Rebecca Skipper wrote: The only thing Windows users can do is simulate mouse clicks with the keyboard or physically use the mouse. I think JAWS will recognize mouse movements, but this is no where near the Mac’s trackpad commander. There is also touch support available (with various gestures depending on the screen reader used), if you have a Windows device with a touch screen. I have a laptop that is capable of it, but I almost never use the touch input feature. As I recall, one of Apple's arguments for not adding touch screen input to Mac devices is that it's generally inconvenient to be touching a laptop-style, vertically oriented display frequently. I can agree with that, but, then, I'm faster with a keyboard anyway. 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