how to remove unwanted voices?
Den 2022-06-20 kl. 20:56, skrev Karen Lewellen:
Jonathan
,
auditory processing is a brain injury, I am not about to listen to
anything, provided in an environment, that might put me in hospital.
given even IOS and windows settings make me dizzy, the answer is no.
At this point I am feeling the default voice provided with this mid
2012 installation of Catalina will be just fine with practice.
Especially as I make slight adjustments.
Far more concerned about the combination of keystrokes required, and
although I am sure it is here somewhere, how to repeat what vo has
just said?
Practice makes more comfortable, even if I doubt this is likely to
become my main machine any time soon..I love typing at 85 words a
minute, and not taking my hands off the keys too much laughs.
Thanks for the question, and the consideration though!
Karen
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Karen and all,
Have you listened to either the AppleVis or Jonathan Mosen podcast
demonstrating the new voices that are available in beta Apple
operating systems?
They have even broght Eloquence to IOS.
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
On Jun 15, 2022, at 15:57, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]>
wrote:
Which in one case requires one have more than one product.
By way of example, I have yet to find an iOS voice that does not
trigger the dizziness aspect of my auditory processing condition.
It is one reason why I wanted an older mac, and why I am, after
years of being on this list, only now in a position to really use
apple products at all.
My point is that inclusion also means choices, and limiting choices
because of how a person's body works, is not inclusion..at all.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
Newer Macintosh computers have a fingerprint sensor and even older
machines, can be unlocked if you are wearing an Apple Watch.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 15, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Karen Lewellen
<[email protected]> wrote:
hi Tim,
Please share what you learn. Just got off the phone with main
apple support, the time window is only 8 hours, which is just not
suitable for me as I learn this machine.
As shared I have no issues with the data not being presented,
with practice I will likely be fine.
but as I just shared with my apple rep, you expect someone like
the late Stephen Hawking to have someone provide his log in
password every 8 hours?
If there is not an existing work-around for that population, one
should be created, even if hidden in the security privacy area,
an alternative way to provide password at log in, or something of
that sort.
best,
Karen
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi,
Whether it’s a VoiceOver user or a sighted user, they will not be
able to see what is being entered. Yes, on some web-sites, there
is a “Show Password” option, but this is not the case for the
Login screen. You do bring up some good points, although I’m not
sure I know a workaround for them. Even with newer versions of
the computer, and newer versions of the MacOS there are things
like the fingerprint sensor. The limitation here is still that
the full entry of the password is required after restart or
logout for security reasons. I will need to check with someone
at Apple if there’s some other way that I’m not aware of that
would allow for password entry for someone with dexterity
challenges.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 15, 2022, at 09:18, Karen Lewellen
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tim,
Thanks as always.
When I spoke to apple accessibility I asked a question.
since voiceover is not providing input, if one is new to the
mac, or used to a larger keyboard, mistakes are quite likely.
however, what happens if someone cannot type at all? the system
does not let you speak your password either, which speaking
personally seems like rather a barrier for those experiencing
motor challenges.
While I respect the risk idea, I am more bothered by the
noninclusive nature of the door if that resonates.
If I could say set the requirement for once every 90 days,
giving me more time to either manage this keyboard or add an
external one it would be one thing.
As it is now, the problem prevents me from moving forward, and I
cannot resonate with that situation.
Kare
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi,
There are trusted developers that are built in to the system,
as well as you being able to tell the MacOS if you want to
“Trust” a specific web-site for downloads. Leaving the setting
to App Store and Trusted Developers is your best option.
Regarding the locking of the screen after sleep or screen
saver, yes, indeed this can be configured. I’ll preface this
by saying that when you disable this feature, you are leaving
your Mac open to security breaches. That being said, if you
are comfortable with that risk, or have other physical reasons
for preferring your Mac not to behave this way, then the
setting is in the Security & Privacy pane of System Preferences
under the General tab.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 15, 2022, at 08:26, Karen Lewellen
<[email protected]> wrote:
Understood now, and noted.
may just leave it alone as it is less critical then say,
logging in at all laughs.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
In iOS, you cannot download apps from third-party sites, you
have no choice but to use the App store. As a result, every
app is vetted by Apple before submission. The other result is
that if someone wants you to run they're program, they have
to submit the app directly to Apple. The Mac however is a
different animal. We can use Safari to download directly and
the system is not directly sandboxed. Take Zoom. To use it on
the iPhone, App store, no other way though it might work
through Safari. However, there is no Zoom app on the Mac App
store. There are some things that will work with Zoom, but if
you want the actual program the company provides, you have to
go to there website. It’s a safe app to download, but I don’t
know if you restrict your downloads if that one would work
for instance. My point though is that if you only download
apps from people you know, then you don’t have to worry about
security measures that may or may not hamper your Mac
experience.
On Jun 14, 2022, at 21:35, Karen Lewellen
<[email protected]> wrote:
Is not that what is meant by trusted developers though? My
understanding is that limiting downloads can protect you
from bugs and viruses.
I know nothing about the IOS store, having no iPhone.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
I think the possible time goes into the hours. As for the
app store apps, keep in mind that the Mac app store is not
like the one for iOS. I suppose m1 users might have a bit
more flex-ability in this manner with Catalyst, but I would
not want to limit my app download options for the Mac since
most will come from third-party sites.
On Jun 14, 2022, at 20:08, Karen Lewellen
<[email protected]> wrote:
hi folks,
I may wait to address this, but since my hmemate and I
will be addressing the log in password request happening
every time a awaken the mac tomorrow, thought I would ask
about this.
I understand from another, and far more informed apple
accessibility team member that I can either turn off the
password request, or decide how often I want the request
to happen, anyone have an idea how much time is possible?
Also, thoughts on the safety of allowing downloads only
from the apple store, and trusted developers?
Thanks,
Kare
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