""Hi, OK, I'll give Word another chance. Some months ago it was awful. Pages workes quite great. I'd love to see VO reading more attributes after pressing VO t but all in all I like it very much. Jürgen
Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 23.06.2022 um 14:32 schrieb 'ja...@jasonjgw.net' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > > Also, I’ve read positive reports about the accessibility of Pages from those > who’ve used it much more than I have. I’ve only run it a few times for > testing. > > From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, 22June, 2022 at 18:53 > To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Working around MS Word > > Recent versions have improved somewhat in their accessibility. > Make sure you’re using the latest Office 365, monthly channel, for the best > that Microsoft Word for Mac currently offers to the VoiceOver user. Old > versions are definitely problematic. > > > On 22 Jun, 2022, at 16:57, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree, Tim. It works well. I have been made to work with sophisticated > documents and it is surprisingly accessible. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > > > On Jun 22, 2022, at 4:03 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Works fine for me. > > Later... > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 22, 2022, at 1:00 PM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote: > > Sorry Tim, Word for Mac works terrible. Reading a simple text might work but > in the moment a document is more suffisticated or very long Word doesn’t work > very well. > In my opinion Outlook is the only app which works quite well using VoiceOver. > Jürgen > > Am 22.06.2022 um 21:51 schrieb 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > Hi, > > I think that you might be running on old information about Microsoft Word. It > is very accessible on the Mac now. But, if you do want to move docs > back-and-forth between word, and an app, Pages is very accessible, and can > import and export to Microsoft Word easily. > > Later… > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 22, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Andrew Leland <alel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here’s another question for the group: > > One of the main reasons I’m considering abandoning MacOS for Windows is that > I have to send and receive MS Word docs, often with track changes and > comments. I primarily work in Scrivener and export to Word, but I can’t give > up word entirely because I need to be able to check the formatting of the > exported docx, and process tracked changes and comments on files I’m > receiving. Does anyone know of a way to bring a .docx with track changes and > comments into a more accessible program than Word on the Mac? Like maybe > Apple Pages? Trying to think of a way that I don’t have to switch to Windows, > though I’m sort of resigned to that fate considering everything I know about > MS Word for MacOS... > > Thanks and high fives all around, > Andrew > > On Jun 22, 2022, at 2:17 PM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote: > > Hi Andrew, > > I’m sorry to hear you are getting blind. Ask as much as you want here in this > list. A lot of great experts share their knowledge. You could also have a > look on applevis.com. Very rich. > > Press CMD + Option + v instead of just CMD + v to move an element in the > Finder. > > Scrivener for Mac is also a great tool which is quite accessible to > VoiceOver. Unfortunately Word isn’t as accessible as it could be. In this > point I’m very disappointed from Microsoft. They could really do better. > > All the best > Jürgen > > > > Am 22.06.2022 um 20:07 schrieb Andrew Leland <alel...@gmail.com>: > > Hey all, > > I'm a lifelong sighted Mac user currently in the process of becoming a blind > Mac user. I've also decided to learn JAWS (even though I would've never dream > of switching to Windows otherwise) since I can't avoid MS Word in my work and > I've been gobsmacked by how frequently Word for Mac stops working compared to > Scrivener, which is my main workhorse word processor. (also finding some of > the JAWS navigation, especially on the web, more reliable and intuitive than > VoiceOver for MacOS). > > Anyway none of this has anything to do with my question for you, which is as > follows: > > is there any way to move items in the finder without just copying, deleting, > then pasting in the new location? I know in Windows you can "cut" a file and > then "paste" it elsewhere, removing this middle step of having to then go > back and delete the file... I have half-heartedly tried reading the apple > documentation about dragging and dropping with VoiceOver but I haven't had > the courage to try. is it more efficient than copy file, paste file, delete > file in the finder? > > thanks, and thanks for including me in this group! > Andrew Leland > alel...@gmail.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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