I have done it successfully too! thanks to all who helped us. Thanks! On Nov 3, 2022, at 5:39 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I am creating that commander to mute speech as I write. This is a good review for me, but if I say something wrong, I hope someone will set the record straight. Go to VO Utility, VO F8. Find the categories table and navigate down to commanders. Once you have opened commanders, you will first see numpad, which is selected by default. Navigate to the right to keyboard and VO space on it. Navigate past the Quick Nav commander to the checkbox that says enable keyboard commander and make sure it is checked. The next control is for the key you will use. I think that right option is the default, but the other choices are left option key and both option keys. This is a popup where you VO space, navigate to the choice you want, and VO space. Which one you choose depends on whether you will ever need to use any of the other keyboard commands that use the left option key. After this you will find the table that contains all the keyboard commanders that exist so far. The table contains two columns, one for the keystroke itself on the left and the other for the command you want to perform with that keystroke. To use the commander, you will type that keystroke along with the modifier key you chose for the commander. For example, if you chose left and right option keys, you would be able to press either option key plus the key you have assigned. If you have never looked at this table, it would not hurt to just examine it before you add the commander. Beyond the table is the add button, which you will press to create the commander. Once you press the add button, you will see two columns. The first column will be blank until you enter a keystroke for your new commander. The column on the right is a menu button, where you will select the action you want the commander to perform. This menu opens to the right, and the commands are groups into a number of categories that are worth examining at some point. In this example, you need the speech category, so you will arrow to the right and locate this. Press VO space or enter, I believe either will work. If the key you entered is already in use, you will be warned that the commander could not be created and put back into the fields. The left column for the keystroke will be blank, but the action you chose will still be in the right column, and you can just write a new key for it. This is one of those procedures that looks and sounds much more difficult than it actually is. But doing some practice runs is still a very good idea. The list of commands that can be chosen is quite extensive, and it might take a while to feel oriented in this very long list. But first letter navigation can be used once you know where to find things. Again, it is easy, but it is better not to create the first one when you are in a big hurry. Hope there are no mistakes in here. On Nov 3, 2022, at 2:50 PM, Mohammad Fazil <mfa...@outlook.com> wrote: Somebody has sent step-by-step instructions for adding Commander shortcut. I have deleted that message by mistake. Could someone, please, sent message to my personal email at: mfa...@outlook.com Thanks! On Nov 3, 2022, at 10:58 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Yes, this does often work. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com Https://write.as/devinprater On Nov 3, 2022, at 12:43 PM, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: When VoiceOver just keeps going on and on, even though you have pressed the control key. Try pressing the caps lock key. that should make it hush. Rob On Nov 3, 2022, at 1:22 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: I wrote to Apple about the problem with not being able to mute speech in mailboxes when viewing messages with two or more lines showing. This is one of the situations where using the control key just doesn’t work. They said they had been able to replicate the problem. In the meantime, I will create the commander because I don’t want to go back to not viewing any of the message, which was the work-around solution they proposed to me. On Nov 3, 2022, at 11:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Using the control key has always worked for me. Many times when I am carrying out a task, I do not always need to hear what VO is saying. Muting speech at such times is not an option whereas pausing speech is. >From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John F. Kennedy My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/3/2022 9:17 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: Yes, I’ve experienced this too. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com Https://write.as/devinprater On Nov 3, 2022, at 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: In my experience it does not always pause what VO is speaking in the moment. Cheers, Donna On Nov 3, 2022, at 11:13 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: The control key does exactly what is is supposed to do. It "pauses" what Voiceover is speaking at the moment. It will not pause what VO speaks next. >From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John F. Kennedy My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/3/2022 8:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Tapping control only works for me some of the time. I frequently have to tap it more than once. It’s still handy, just not 100% reliable. Cheers, Donna On Nov 3, 2022, at 9:04 AM, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi, Do you know pressing the control key pauses speech? But if you want to have a hot key to mute speech, it can be done. I have been doing it for years. I am surprised that no-body has mentioned adding a commander. I use option plus the tiller or AKA the grove key located under the escape key. I will look for my notes on how to do it. Thanks, Rob On Nov 3, 2022, at 1:30 AM, Fazil M. <mfa...@outlook.com <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi, Group. Can I mute voiceover speech with Keyboard? I am not talking about trackpad, I am talking about keyboard. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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