I second this.

I use both my Mac and my PC daily.  I teach online, and mostly I prefer the way 
JAWS and Windows handles the LMS, so I doubt I’ll ever not have a PC.  But I’m 
also amazed at how frustrating things that should be simple can be on Windows.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:32 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I hate web Browsing on the mac. Most other things I am good with. I
> use both platforms for different reasons, even having a 2023 MBP 14
> with max chip. I still use my windows computers as my daily drivers. I
> like my mac for vocr and logic, and a few other things. Some things
> can just be slower on a mac  when it comes to page navagation and a
> couple other things, I just would rather not deal with it.
> 
> On 9/7/23, Mohamed Fayed <m10fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’ve lately switched from 2016 15” MBP to 2023 M2Max 16””. The gain in
>> performance is tremendous and you will notice it.
>> 
>> For issues related to “mail is not responding”, it occurs when you make the
>> exact keystrokes, but Voiceover continues within a significantly shorter
>> duration.
>> 
>> For web browsing, Safari nowadays is pretty bad. This is not related to VO.
>> You may try Google Chrome or MS Edge instead.
>> 
>> Windows on Apple Silicon is significantly faster. If there is a chance to
>> get to Apple Silicon device, and try it yourself, that would be great.
>> 
>> The issue that annoys me the most is VO stops talking. It is on Mac and iOS.
>> I hope they fix it soon.
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Sep 2023, at 8:01 PM, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My biggest gripe with Mac OS and VO is web browsing. It’s awful compared
>>> to Windows with JAWS or NNVDA. It is the main reason I would seriously
>>> consider going back to Windows if/when it’s time to get a new laptop.
>>> I use DuckDuckGo as my browser now to get away from that annoying “Safari
>>> is Busy” message that cripples my productivity.
>>> 
>>> So I’m on the fence about switching back to Windows, but if VO on the Mac
>>> does not improve over time (and I doubt that it will) I might just flip a
>>> coin on the decision.
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
>>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, it seems like we are having more than a few messages on this list
>>> about the disappointment in Mac’s VoiceOver performance.
>>> 
>>> Are quite a few of you thinking of switching back to windows? Or are a lot
>>> of you overall still happy with the VoiceOver experience?
>>> 
>>> I think I am mostly curious about this, because I have been talking about
>>> updating my MacBook Eyre. I guess part of me is beginning to wonder,
>>> should I get a Windows laptop instead? I would be very disappointed to
>>> spend $900 on a MacBook Air, and still have a lot of performance issues.
>>> 
>>> What are your guises thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> From Traci's MBA20.
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