Hi all! I usually wait for the deal breaker bugs to get fixed. The minor ones aren’t so bad most of the time, especially since they either pop up at random or don’t make a huge impact most of the time. I wait for the deal breaker bugs to get fixed and I recognize that what makes a deal breaker for me might not be a deal breaker for the next person or vise versa. I always tell folks to be their own judge on wether or not to update or when in less it’s a totally unstable update that will make their device totally unusable or in less I know about what might be a deal breaker for them and it’s a nasty one. When updates are stable or don’t have common deal breakers, I always advise that they be their own judge on whether to update, not update, or hold off until the second or third patch in less it’s unstable enough that it might take until the fourth patch comes along to fix the instability which I’ve only seen two or three times with any kind of Apple software anywhere. Kendra
Please excuse any errors that sneak past my editing attempts. Thank you for taking the time to read my email message! Kendra Schaber Pronouns: she, her and her's I'm a multicultural who's always learning about the world. I'm a language learner who knows from first hand experience that languages are more complicated than we ever know until we learn a new language for the very first time. I'm not an expert in any calture, including my own. If i'm an expert in anything, it's my own lived experiences. May we all embrace diversity and improve the environment! Blessed be! “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.”, author unknown ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Herbie Allen <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2025 7:32:32 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tahoe Upgrade Broke Mail Rules I’ll just say that if you’re waiting for minor bugs to get fixed, that’s fine, but you’ll drive yourself batty if that determines whether you should update or not. Like brad, I have found this to be a stable update, other than a Rogue Ameba issue which I can work around and they’ll probably fix soon as they have ben trying. I think I’ve only had one Mac update I didn’t like which was Big Sur and that was more to do with how they changed some things, and there is one bug introduced later on with the Capslock that has never been resolved. But many things have gotten updated or introduced over the years that are helpful. One example is the changes to Messages over the years in Mac and iOS. On Oct 8, 2025, at 23:07, Kendra Schaber <[email protected]> wrote: Hi all! I have a similar question because I usually update when the bugs get fixed to insure that my tech works properly. I know, Herb will probably come back with “it’s a stable update”, but Herb forgets that choosing to update or not update is a personal choice, not one that should. Be dictated by anyone in less the update is so unstable that it renders your device totally unusable for all blind users. I believe it’s up to us as individuals to figure out for ourselves what’s a deal breaker bug and what isn’t. If bugs are known bugs, I believe that everyone should know of their existence even if they personally don’t experience them so that each person can decide for themselves whether they feel safe to update or hold off until the second or third patch comes along with the fixes. I believe it’s perfectly ok to be informed, but not necessarily told what to do with any given update in most cases because being informed allows us to make the chose to update or hold off for ourselves. Kendra Please excuse any errors that sneak past my editing attempts. Thank you for taking the time to read my email message! Kendra Schaber Pronouns: she, her and her's I'm a multicultural who's always learning about the world. I'm a language learner who knows from first hand experience that languages are more complicated than we ever know until we learn a new language for the very first time. I'm not an expert in any calture, including my own. If i'm an expert in anything, it's my own lived experiences. May we all embrace diversity and improve the environment! Blessed be! “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.”, author unknown ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2025 8:55:02 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tahoe Upgrade Broke Mail Rules I have a curious question? If your current os of the mac meets your computing needs, why upgrade..at all? especially given the risks of accessibility issues and general bugs? Just wondering, Kare On Thu, 9 Oct 2025, Krishnakant Mane wrote: > Precisely why It is. not even advisable to dare think of an update now. > At least for me, it is going to be Tahoe 26.3. > After seeing the amount of bugs being reported, specially about accessibility > I had decided to wait, now these issues with thing like mail pushes it even > further. > Regards. > >> On 9 Oct 2025, at 6:37 AM, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Using gmail. I have over two dozen rules set up that automatically process >> messages that come in via gmail. These would automatically flow out of the >> inbox into the appropriate folders. >> >> After the upgrade the messages now do not leave the inbox. I need to >> specifically apply the rules to the selected messages in the inbox to >> complete the process. This is a known reported bug in the mail migration >> process during Tahoe upgrade. No known fix. Can only waith for a fix in a >> future update. >> >> Just an FYI. >> >> >> Dave Carlson >> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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