You know, guys, that's a little weird. *grin* Well, I don't need any added 
chaos in my life at the moment, but I will try it when things settle down.
Take care,
Donna
On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yeah, that's the nice thing about it.
> 
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> On Apr 20, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> Even if there is a problem, a few days later it might just go away.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yep. That's of course a drawback. But mostly, I've never had issues except 
>>> that one time with multi-select list boxes, or the time when VO kept saying 
>>> "Selected edit".
>>> 
>>> For a VoiceOVer user, the advantages have been greater rather than 
>>> nonexistent.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I should note that what you're referring to is the nightly builds. There 
>>>> is some small amount of risk as the nightly builds incorporate the day's 
>>>> code changes which may or may not always work right. The advantage is you 
>>>> get all the latest fixes, features and performance enhancements. At 
>>>> certain points Apple then takes the webkit framework and migrates it to 
>>>> Safari so eventually it gets there. Once nice thing in the current webkit 
>>>> builds is a much improved support for ARIA which is markup that makes web 
>>>> widgets much more accessible. Not all sites are doing that yet but those 
>>>> that do get no special behavior in Safari.
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Webkit is the underlying framework for Safari. That is what is handling 
>>>>> all HTML, at least on the Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A lot of the time, stability with Webkit is increased if you download the 
>>>>> framework yourself and keep it up-to-date. The Apple version is far out 
>>>>> of date.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's just a brief summary, but if something crashes, chances are that 
>>>>> getting a new version of Webkit fixes it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.webkit.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nic
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>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry all, if this has already been discussed, but I've been really 
>>>>>> swamped the last couple of months, so I may have missed it.  What is 
>>>>>> Webkit?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah, I was wondering if you were talking to me for a second, even 
>>>>>>> though I haven't commented at all. lol
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, I haven't noticed anything. In fact, Safari is better than ever, 
>>>>>>> and with the installation of Webkit, it's faster than I can blink the 
>>>>>>> proverbial eye. In fact, it's so blindingly fast that you don't even 
>>>>>>> see it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's true, even if I use the regular-type Safari, but it's a bit 
>>>>>>> slower. Not by much, though.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I suck at troubleshooting. This is because I never encounter the issues 
>>>>>>> everyone else encounters. I feel left out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Nic
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>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> excuse me Vic.  Too little sleep here, and I misheard your name.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Vic
>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:08 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.6.3 speed, Voiceover and browsing with Safari
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot, Carolyn, for confirming this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ch...@q.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Vic:
>>>>>>>> > I haven't seen this with safari, but I have noticed some new 
>>>>>>>> > difficulties with VO focus.  I am beginning to suspect that the 
>>>>>>>> > latest update may have put a couple of inadvertent kinks into VO.  I 
>>>>>>>> > can press the "applications"  button numerous times, and the folder 
>>>>>>>> > won't open.  It just keeps saying< "applications button pressed," 
>>>>>>>> > but doesn't open the folder.  I'm hoping someone who knows a lot 
>>>>>>>> > more than I do can make sense of the new issues to Apple 
>>>>>>>> > Accesibility better than I could.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Carolyn
>>>>>>>> > On Apr 18, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Vic wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > Hello all,
>>>>>>>> > > After upgrading to the latest Mac OS 10.6.3 I am noticing that
>>>>>>>> > > browsing with Safari is a bit slower than on previous 10.5 system.
>>>>>>>> > > This is particularly noticeable on dynamic sites such as Yahoo! 
>>>>>>>> > > mail
>>>>>>>> > > Classic or Facebook. For example, in many instances Voiceover would
>>>>>>>> > > keep on saying "Safari Busy" and you are not able to do anything 
>>>>>>>> > > for a
>>>>>>>> > > couple of seconds.
>>>>>>>> > > Is anyone else is noticing this behavior or there issomething wrong
>>>>>>>> > > with my system?
>>>>>>>> > > I am running the new OS on the 13-inch Macbook Pro (one of the 
>>>>>>>> > > latest
>>>>>>>> > > ones).
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Thanks for any input.
>>>>>>>> > > Victor
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