Aww, ah well. I guess that’s what we have USB keyboards and changing modifier keys in system settings for.
> On Mar 16, 2026, at 1:41 PM, Steve Matzura <[email protected]> wrote: > > No number pad. That's the extended version. One thing I had to learn was that > "full" doesn't really mean full. No PageUp/Down, no Home/End, no > Insert/Delete. Those are all emulated via the FN (now called Global) key. > > > > On 3/16/2026 9:55 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> A full Magic Keyboard, with the number pad? >> >>> On Mar 16, 2026, at 5:56 AM, Steve Matzura <[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> For nearly double the price, the air isn’t worth it. And you are wrong >>> about the size model. For an extra $100, you can have a full half terabyte >>> drive and a full Magic keyboard >>> >>> Also, know this: the A – 18 chip is faster than the M1. >>> >>>> On Mar 15, 2026, at 11:13 PM, Bradford Snyder <[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have not used a MacBook Neo, but my concern is that it only has 8 GB >>>> RAM, and there is no upgrade option. >>>> I would not recommend this MacBook to any VoiceOver user, and would >>>> suggest a MacBook Air instead. >>>> >>>> - Brad - >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 15, 2026, at 22:05, Frank Ventura <[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have ben using a Mac Book Neo since last week. Voiceover feels as >>>> responsive as it is on my M4 Mac book Air. My use is fairly >>>> straight-forward with basic Office styles apps, web browsers, and some >>>> audio production software. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 15, 2026, at 9:36 PM, Shai <[email protected]> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> I’m wondering if anyone on the list has had the opportunity to evaluate >>>>> the MacBook Neo. I’m curious how well it performs with VoiceOver and >>>>> other macOS accessibility tools in real-world use. >>>>> Specifically, I’d be interested to know whether the Neo feels smooth and >>>>> responsive when using VoiceOver, navigating the system, and running >>>>> typical productivity apps. 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