Olivia, For most tasks, NVDA is good enough in the windows VM. However, for times when I need to do things, such as read comments in Microsoft word documents, I have a demo of window-eyes installed. I can use it for half an hour at a time, which is usually long enough to accomplish the odd ball task NVDA cannot handle. hth,
John On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > This might be somewhat off-topic, but if you want to run fusion, once you get > the Windows part running, you can always go to www.satogo.com. That site > let's you use a free version of the screenreader System Access, the only > limitation is you have to leave the webpage up. If not, NVDA is another good > screenreader that you can download for free. So if you use Fusion, you won't > have to buy an expensive screenreader. As for the amount of hard drive space > fusion takes up, I'm not sure. Hope this helps. > Courtney > On 20/04/2010, at 11:09 in the Afternoon, olivia norman wrote: > >> This is very helpful information and thanks for sending! I'm a graduate >> student, and I exclusively use the mac for all school work. I mostly use >> iWork to accomplish tasks. The only reason I haven't installed fusion is >> because I don't own an expensive windows screen reader, but I am wondering >> whether this might be a good solution for an internship I will be doing in >> the fall. I really don't want to go back to jusing windows after using my >> mac, so this might work well. I suppose that purchasing the expensive >> windows screen reader might be inevitable, but at least I'll be able to use >> my mac! How much hard drive space would I need to run fusion? >> Thank you again for this information! >> Olivia >> >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM, denise avant wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. And >>> my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write >>> briefs, with case citations. >>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others >>> about the program. I didn’t know about the snap shot. >>> So thanks. >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John J Herzog >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: the apple user? >>> >>> Hello, >>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and >>> who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I can >>> helpfully answer your questions. >>> Forgive the length of this email. >>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter >>> nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use >>> serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing >>> you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application >>> on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is >>> readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other >>> screen readers can you say that about? >>> >>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not >>> being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. However, >>> for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. >>> Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your >>> mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for >>> windows and run office without a hitch. >>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have >>> configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known >>> as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact >>> configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh >>> install of windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's >>> awesome, because it does a complete and utter system restore when windows >>> decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with >>> fusion is better than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a >>> fusion snapshot literally restores all files and settings to the way they >>> were when you took it. It is much more extensive than using the built in >>> windows system restore utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and >>> I will give you a perfect example. >>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a scanner >>> with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I was >>> using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for the >>> new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I found >>> myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard windows >>> machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall windows >>> to get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having to spend >>> hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know what happens >>> after that. >>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior to >>> having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then installed >>> both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was smooth >>> sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the burden of >>> having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader again, and >>> the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. >>> I hope this helps answer your questions. >>> John >>> >>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent demos >>> of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover >>> work, and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello all, >>> Please forgive the length of this message. >>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, I’ve >>> come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern about >>> the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it >>> tremendously. I’ve been able to do things with the phone I was never able >>> to do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in >>> extensions and account numbers once the number is connected. >>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy another >>> phone, where I don’t have accessibility built in. >>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I’ve had any problem of any >>> kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. >>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. >>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro on >>> the drawing board. >>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with the >>> exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of the >>> box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. >>> I’m seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with voice >>> over. The biggest criticism I’ve heard that if you’re conducting a business >>> or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. This >>> apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not accessible >>> with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. >>> Basically, one person, who doesn’t use the mac, but is familiar with the >>> product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to >>> “play.” >>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems >>> address these issues. 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