hi I can't just can't use bootcamp, I must use a vm. I am a edtech ta so i 
don't to confeuze techer ed studentes. use both jfw, and windoweyes. and so 
fare me it seems to work.ps please forgive my spealling I am vary tired the end 
of the term is
near. I am not getting much sleep.Maurice ham call kd0iko.On Apr 20, 2010, at 
10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> You can set up a bootcamp partition so you can use all of yoru system specks. 
>  that is what I did and it works well. vmwhare chokes on my system so can't 
> use it.
> 
> Take care.
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, olivia norman wrote:
> 
>> This is very helpful information and thanks for sending!  I'm a graduate 
>> student, and I exclusively use the mac for all school work.  I mostly use 
>> iWork to accomplish tasks.  The only reason I haven't installed fusion is 
>> because I don't own an expensive windows screen reader, but I am wondering 
>> whether this might be a good solution for an internship I will be doing in 
>> the fall.  I really don't want to go back to jusing windows after using my 
>> mac, so this might work well.  I suppose that purchasing the expensive 
>> windows screen reader might be inevitable, but at least I'll be able to use 
>> my mac! How much hard drive space would I need to run fusion?
>> Thank you again for this information!
>> Olivia
>> 
>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower",  Steve Jobs
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM, denise avant wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. And 
>>> my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write 
>>> briefs, with case citations.
>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others 
>>> about the program. I didn’t know about the snap shot.
>>> So thanks.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John J Herzog
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: the apple user?
>>>  
>>> Hello, 
>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and 
>>> who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I can 
>>> helpfully answer your questions. 
>>> Forgive the length of this email. 
>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter 
>>> nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use 
>>> serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing 
>>> you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application 
>>> on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is 
>>> readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other 
>>> screen readers can you say that about? 
>>>  
>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not 
>>> being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. However, 
>>> for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. 
>>> Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your 
>>> mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for 
>>> windows and run office without a hitch. 
>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have 
>>> configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known 
>>> as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact 
>>> configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh 
>>> install of windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's 
>>> awesome, because it does a complete and utter system restore when windows 
>>> decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with 
>>> fusion is better than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a 
>>> fusion snapshot literally restores all files and settings to the way they 
>>> were when you took it. It is much more extensive than using the built in 
>>> windows system restore utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and 
>>> I will give you a perfect example. 
>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a scanner 
>>> with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I was 
>>> using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for the 
>>> new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I found 
>>> myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard windows 
>>> machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall windows 
>>> to get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having to spend 
>>> hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know what happens 
>>> after that. 
>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior to 
>>> having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then installed 
>>> both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was smooth 
>>> sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the burden of 
>>> having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader again, and 
>>> the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. 
>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. 
>>> John 
>>>  
>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent demos 
>>> of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover 
>>> work, and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. 
>>>  
>>> Hope this helps. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> Please forgive the length of this message.
>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, I’ve 
>>> come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern about 
>>> the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it 
>>> tremendously. I’ve been able to do things with the phone I was never able 
>>> to do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in 
>>> extensions and account numbers once the number is connected.
>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy another 
>>> phone, where I don’t have accessibility built in.
>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I’ve had any problem of any 
>>> kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with.
>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff.
>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro on 
>>> the drawing board.
>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with the 
>>> exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of the 
>>> box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about.
>>> I’m seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with voice 
>>> over. The biggest criticism I’ve heard that if you’re conducting a business 
>>> or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. This 
>>> apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not accessible 
>>> with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes.
>>> Basically, one person, who doesn’t use the mac, but is familiar with the 
>>> product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to 
>>> “play.”
>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems 
>>> address these issues. Thanks.
>>>  
>>> 
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