the same with my 2.4 ghz custem mac book from 2008. my imac is a 2.6 ghz box and I don't expted eny problems whin I get my vm put on this box. Maurice ham call kd0iko, unco ta phonenumber 1-970-353-1044, nfbco newsline local numbers admin 1-970-373-3076. On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> I blame JFW then. My processor is a 2.53GHz, not that much faster, and System > Access and Window-Eyes both run fine. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I ahave a 4 gig dool cor 2.3ghz processer with 4 gigs of ram. jaws and nvda >> studder and are so chopy it missed words and sounds like diao up connection. >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Huh. What Mac do you have? There's clearly some problem here; I'm running >>> it fine on a Macbook Pro, 4GB RAM and my VM only has 2GB allocated to it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> vms though apparently cannot run on my mac as the speech gets very >>>> choppy. I've given it all I can and still no go. >>>> >>>> Ah well. Take care. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi I can't just can't use bootcamp, I must use a vm. I am a edtech ta so >>>>> i don't to confeuze techer ed studentes. use both jfw, and windoweyes. >>>>> and so fare me it seems to work.ps please forgive my spealling I am vary >>>>> tired the end of the term is >>>>> near. I am not getting much sleep.Maurice ham call kd0iko.On Apr 20, >>>>> 2010, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You can set up a bootcamp partition so you can use all of yoru system >>>>>> specks. that is what I did and it works well. vmwhare chokes on my >>>>>> system so can't use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, olivia norman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is very helpful information and thanks for sending! I'm a >>>>>>> graduate student, and I exclusively use the mac for all school work. I >>>>>>> mostly use iWork to accomplish tasks. The only reason I haven't >>>>>>> installed fusion is because I don't own an expensive windows screen >>>>>>> reader, but I am wondering whether this might be a good solution for an >>>>>>> internship I will be doing in the fall. I really don't want to go back >>>>>>> to jusing windows after using my mac, so this might work well. I >>>>>>> suppose that purchasing the expensive windows screen reader might be >>>>>>> inevitable, but at least I'll be able to use my mac! How much hard >>>>>>> drive space would I need to run fusion? >>>>>>> Thank you again for this information! >>>>>>> Olivia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders >>>>>>>> office. And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction >>>>>>>> attorney is to write briefs, with case citations. >>>>>>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to >>>>>>>> others about the program. I didn’t know about the snap shot. >>>>>>>> So thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John J Herzog >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: the apple user? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, >>>>>>>> and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I >>>>>>>> feel I can helpfully answer your questions. >>>>>>>> Forgive the length of this email. >>>>>>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter >>>>>>>> nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I >>>>>>>> use serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, >>>>>>>> allowing you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the >>>>>>>> preview application on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have >>>>>>>> ever seen. The text is readable with voiceover, and there are few, if >>>>>>>> any crashes. What other screen readers can you say that about? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications >>>>>>>> not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. >>>>>>>> However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called >>>>>>>> VMware fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the >>>>>>>> same time as your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen >>>>>>>> reader you like for windows and run office without a hitch. >>>>>>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have >>>>>>>> configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is >>>>>>>> known as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its >>>>>>>> exact configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always >>>>>>>> have a fresh install of windows, office, and your screen reader a >>>>>>>> click away. It's awesome, because it does a complete and utter system >>>>>>>> restore when windows decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I >>>>>>>> actually think a mac with fusion is better than a standard windows PC >>>>>>>> for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot literally restores all >>>>>>>> files and settings to the way they were when you took it. It is much >>>>>>>> more extensive than using the built in windows system restore utility. >>>>>>>> It has saved my skin a number of times, and I will give you a perfect >>>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a >>>>>>>> scanner with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner >>>>>>>> that I was using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain >>>>>>>> drivers for the new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the >>>>>>>> old drivers, I found myself in a situation where neither set worked. >>>>>>>> If I had a standard windows machine, I was facing the real possibility >>>>>>>> of having to reinstall windows to get either unit to work reliably. >>>>>>>> Either that, or it was having to spend hours and hours messing with >>>>>>>> system dll files, and we all know what happens after that. >>>>>>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior >>>>>>>> to having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then >>>>>>>> installed both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and >>>>>>>> all was smooth sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, >>>>>>>> plus the burden of having to get a sighted person to help install the >>>>>>>> screen reader again, and the time that would have been wasted in such >>>>>>>> a pursuit. >>>>>>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent >>>>>>>> demos of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and >>>>>>>> voiceover work, and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>> Please forgive the length of this message. >>>>>>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, >>>>>>>> I’ve come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not >>>>>>>> concern about the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have >>>>>>>> enjoyed it tremendously. I’ve been able to do things with the phone I >>>>>>>> was never able to do with other phones. The only problem I still have >>>>>>>> is putting in extensions and account numbers once the number is >>>>>>>> connected. >>>>>>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy >>>>>>>> another phone, where I don’t have accessibility built in. >>>>>>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I’ve had any problem >>>>>>>> of any kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. >>>>>>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. >>>>>>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro >>>>>>>> on the drawing board. >>>>>>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with >>>>>>>> the exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right >>>>>>>> out of the box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. >>>>>>>> I’m seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with >>>>>>>> voice over. The biggest criticism I’ve heard that if you’re conducting >>>>>>>> a business or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind >>>>>>>> user. This apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are >>>>>>>> not accessible with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. >>>>>>>> Basically, one person, who doesn’t use the mac, but is familiar with >>>>>>>> the product line, told me that the operating system was those who >>>>>>>> wanted to “play.” >>>>>>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems >>>>>>>> address these issues. 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