Hi, Hmm. I'm going to be interested in that. Inserting the sim in the iPhone is ridiculously easy.
I want to do it on the iPad now. I can't imagine it being any different. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: [email protected] Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: [email protected] AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:10 PM, marie Howarth wrote: > I don't know if the tripple click of the home button is set to a default but > Apple try to not second guess their customers so I think this would be kind > of counter Apple. And not to mention, they would still complain if the triple > tap brought up voice over when it was a low vision user who was using the > phone. I seriously think this article is nit picking. And, like you say Dan, > all of these devices need to be hooked up to ITunes to get them working. > Someone also pointed out on twitter earlier that the insertion of a simcard > into the IPhones and IPad 3Gs would not be accessible. I don't know about > anywhere else, but Apple inserted my simcard into my IPhone and registered it > for me in store when I got it. And with the introduction of the new > Micro-sims, I don't want to be messing with something that small. I'll leave > that to the experts thank you :) > > On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:30, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these >> blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be >> turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out >> of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook >> them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your >> content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes via >> the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out of >> the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be nice if >> the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to toggle >> Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to what they >> were getting at. >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Nic, >>> >>> Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same reaction >>> as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the box. They >>> just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm a bit confused here. >>>> >>>> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it >>>> has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been >>>> a real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, >>>> this was not quite the case." >>>> >>>> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird >>>> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it >>>> too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by >>>> default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a >>>> product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only >>>> thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> Mobile Me: [email protected] >>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >>>> AIM: cincinster >>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>> Facebook Profile >>>> My Twitter >>>> >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't >>>>> think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the >>>>> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put >>>>> users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of >>>>> the box that rNIB promotes readily? >>>>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree >>>>> with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >>>>> >>>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, >>>>>> this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and >>>>>> negatives of the product which is good. >>>>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they >>>>>> made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is >>>>>> not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and >>>>>> requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will >>>>>>> be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it >>>>>>> is for you all to read. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the >>>>>>> blind in the UK. 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