Hi, Well, same price though, just different currency. Even if you pay more dollars, Marie is still paying the same amount. Of course, if the exchange rate changed slightly, she could be paying more or less than Americans might. Unless, of course, it is a set price for all countries, in which case it might benefit you more to buy it from another country if that conversion rate rises, making a dollar worth so much more. I see Danish to USD rise practically every day now, so technically a Macbook might be a lot cheeper for me to buy in the United States as opposed to Denmark.
Anyway, I'm off to play "The Oddworld series". What a classic match of games. WOOOO. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: [email protected] Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: [email protected] AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > and about twice that in the us. so about 190 to 200 dollars. > > Take care. > > S > On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:13 AM, marie Howarth wrote: > >> I am not certain, around £80 or £90 here in the UK, so around the same in >> Euros I'm guessing with current exchange rates. >> >> On 21 Apr 2010, at 15:05, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What does MS Office actually cost for the Mac? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: [email protected] >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:37 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>> >>>> Well, this article may release some new light on the office on the mac >>>> situation for us all. It is not in black and white yet but this article >>>> suggests that office may just be written in Coco. Outlook will be coming >>>> to the office suite and it will be written in coco. I am hoping the rest >>>> of the apps will be also written in the language our beloved voice over >>>> recognises. It's not concrete but later this year we may have access to >>>> the office suite that is so essential to the business world. >>>> http://www.tgdaily.com/services/48387-microsoft-touts-office-2011-for-mac-os-x >>>> On 21 Apr 2010, at 14:13, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>> >>>>> It comes down to what I've said choose the tools. Ms spreadsheet access >>>>> is still better, and we can harrang apple in a kindly way til this >>>>> changes, but I'm greedy, and do have bootcamp installed for these >>>>> eventualities. >>>>> It really is about chosing toools that fit the task even if in general >>>>> terms, I don't like the manufactures of the tool. >>>>> On 2010-04-21, at 4:38 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> good morning Denise, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would agree with the others who have replied to this thread stating >>>>>> that the Mac can be used as a productivity tool. I am a University >>>>>> professor (in the American sense of that word rather than the Uk/Irish >>>>>> meaning) which means I must use my mac to write papers, grade student >>>>>> exams and to carry out other functions. However, I have not totally >>>>>> abandoned my Dell. While the word processor in iWork 09 is accessible, >>>>>> I don't like either the Numbers spreadsheet application or indeed the >>>>>> access provided by VO. It's just an opinion, and no doubt the zealots >>>>>> on this list will vehemently disagree, but I still believe that the >>>>>> browsing of spreadsheets using Jaws is unparallelled. Vo lacks the >>>>>> kinds of semantic access to this kind of data that Jaws/Excel provide. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would particularly agree with the comment which said "preview" is a >>>>>> lovely PDF reader, however it has given me problems when used in >>>>>> full-screen mode. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Dónal >>>>>> On 21 Apr 2010, at 01:23, denise avant wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. >>>>>>> And >>>>>>> my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write >>>>>>> briefs, with case citations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others >>>>>>> about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John J Herzog >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: the apple user? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> helpfully answer your questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Forgive the length of this email. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter >>>>>>> nonsense. >>>>>>> On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use serious >>>>>>> apps >>>>>>> as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing you to do >>>>>>> extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application on the >>>>>>> mac >>>>>>> is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is readable >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other screen readers >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> you say that about? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. >>>>>>> However, >>>>>>> for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware >>>>>>> fusion. >>>>>>> Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your >>>>>>> mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for >>>>>>> windows >>>>>>> and run office without a hitch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have >>>>>>> configured >>>>>>> windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as a >>>>>>> snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact >>>>>>> configuration >>>>>>> at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of >>>>>>> windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go >>>>>>> south >>>>>>> on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better >>>>>>> than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot >>>>>>> literally restores all files and settings to the way they were when you >>>>>>> took >>>>>>> it. It is much more extensive than using the built in windows system >>>>>>> restore >>>>>>> utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and I will give you a >>>>>>> perfect example. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a >>>>>>> scanner >>>>>>> with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I was >>>>>>> using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I >>>>>>> found >>>>>>> myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard >>>>>>> windows >>>>>>> machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall >>>>>>> windows to >>>>>>> get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having to spend >>>>>>> hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know what >>>>>>> happens >>>>>>> after that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior to >>>>>>> having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then >>>>>>> installed >>>>>>> both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was smooth >>>>>>> sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the burden >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader again, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent >>>>>>> demos >>>>>>> of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover >>>>>>> work, >>>>>>> and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please forgive the length of this message. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it >>>>>>> tremendously. I've been able to do things with the phone I was never >>>>>>> able to >>>>>>> do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in >>>>>>> extensions >>>>>>> and account numbers once the number is connected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy another >>>>>>> phone, where I don't have accessibility built in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I've had any problem of >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> drawing board. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with >>>>>>> voice >>>>>>> over. The biggest criticism I've heard that if you're conducting a >>>>>>> business >>>>>>> or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. This >>>>>>> apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not >>>>>>> accessible >>>>>>> with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically, one person, who doesn't use the mac, but is familiar with the >>>>>>> product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to >>>>>>> "play." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems >>>>>>> address these issues. 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