I am not certain, around £80 or £90 here in the UK, so around the same in Euros I'm guessing with current exchange rates.
On 21 Apr 2010, at 15:05, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > What does MS Office actually cost for the Mac? > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: [email protected] > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: [email protected] > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:37 PM, marie Howarth wrote: > >> Well, this article may release some new light on the office on the mac >> situation for us all. It is not in black and white yet but this article >> suggests that office may just be written in Coco. Outlook will be coming to >> the office suite and it will be written in coco. I am hoping the rest of the >> apps will be also written in the language our beloved voice over recognises. >> It's not concrete but later this year we may have access to the office suite >> that is so essential to the business world. >> http://www.tgdaily.com/services/48387-microsoft-touts-office-2011-for-mac-os-x >> On 21 Apr 2010, at 14:13, Kaare Dehard wrote: >> >>> It comes down to what I've said choose the tools. Ms spreadsheet access is >>> still better, and we can harrang apple in a kindly way til this changes, >>> but I'm greedy, and do have bootcamp installed for these eventualities. >>> It really is about chosing toools that fit the task even if in general >>> terms, I don't like the manufactures of the tool. >>> On 2010-04-21, at 4:38 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> good morning Denise, >>>> >>>> I would agree with the others who have replied to this thread stating that >>>> the Mac can be used as a productivity tool. I am a University professor >>>> (in the American sense of that word rather than the Uk/Irish meaning) >>>> which means I must use my mac to write papers, grade student exams and to >>>> carry out other functions. However, I have not totally abandoned my Dell. >>>> While the word processor in iWork 09 is accessible, I don't like either >>>> the Numbers spreadsheet application or indeed the access provided by VO. >>>> It's just an opinion, and no doubt the zealots on this list will >>>> vehemently disagree, but I still believe that the browsing of spreadsheets >>>> using Jaws is unparallelled. Vo lacks the kinds of semantic access to >>>> this kind of data that Jaws/Excel provide. >>>> >>>> I would particularly agree with the comment which said "preview" is a >>>> lovely PDF reader, however it has given me problems when used in >>>> full-screen mode. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Dónal >>>> On 21 Apr 2010, at 01:23, denise avant wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. >>>>> And >>>>> my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write >>>>> briefs, with case citations. >>>>> >>>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others >>>>> about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. >>>>> >>>>> So thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John J Herzog >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: the apple user? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and >>>>> who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I >>>>> can >>>>> helpfully answer your questions. >>>>> >>>>> Forgive the length of this email. >>>>> >>>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter >>>>> nonsense. >>>>> On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use serious apps >>>>> as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing you to do >>>>> extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application on the >>>>> mac >>>>> is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is readable with >>>>> voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other screen readers >>>>> can >>>>> you say that about? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not >>>>> being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. >>>>> However, >>>>> for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. >>>>> Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your >>>>> mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for >>>>> windows >>>>> and run office without a hitch. >>>>> >>>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have >>>>> configured >>>>> windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as a >>>>> snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact configuration >>>>> at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of >>>>> windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, >>>>> because >>>>> it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go >>>>> south >>>>> on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better >>>>> than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot >>>>> literally restores all files and settings to the way they were when you >>>>> took >>>>> it. It is much more extensive than using the built in windows system >>>>> restore >>>>> utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and I will give you a >>>>> perfect example. >>>>> >>>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a scanner >>>>> with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I was >>>>> using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for the >>>>> new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I >>>>> found >>>>> myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard >>>>> windows >>>>> machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall windows >>>>> to >>>>> get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having to spend >>>>> hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know what >>>>> happens >>>>> after that. >>>>> >>>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior to >>>>> having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then installed >>>>> both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was smooth >>>>> sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the burden of >>>>> having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader again, >>>>> and >>>>> the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent demos >>>>> of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover >>>>> work, >>>>> and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Please forgive the length of this message. >>>>> >>>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, I've >>>>> come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern about >>>>> the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it >>>>> tremendously. I've been able to do things with the phone I was never able >>>>> to >>>>> do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in >>>>> extensions >>>>> and account numbers once the number is connected. >>>>> >>>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy another >>>>> phone, where I don't have accessibility built in. >>>>> >>>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I've had any problem of >>>>> any >>>>> kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. >>>>> >>>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. >>>>> >>>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro on >>>>> the >>>>> drawing board. >>>>> >>>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with the >>>>> exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of the >>>>> box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. >>>>> >>>>> I'm seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with voice >>>>> over. The biggest criticism I've heard that if you're conducting a >>>>> business >>>>> or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. This >>>>> apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not accessible >>>>> with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. >>>>> >>>>> Basically, one person, who doesn't use the mac, but is familiar with the >>>>> product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to >>>>> "play." >>>>> >>>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems >>>>> address these issues. 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