Hi, Wow. I suck. These specs clearly show I must update my RAM. I've been using both Windows XP and Windows 7 for months now, only utilizing 512MB of RAM. Surprisingly, it's not anywhere near as slow as everyone says it should be.
Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > I've got three vm's running in fusion, I don't have them all running at > once, but I have xp with a 2 core processor and 2 gig ram, windows 7 with > the same specs, and ubuntu with 1 gig ram and a 2core processor. > All of them work great. > I don't see the point in having more specs setup and then making the system > slower overall. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart > Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2010 12:07 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: the apple user? > > Sarah, > > Windows runs best on a VM when you give it the total 3GB of memory that 32 > bit Windows can access, but 3GB is way too much memory to reserve when you > only have 4GB total in your computer. That leaves only 1GB of memory for > running OSX, the VMware application itself, plus any other Mac apps that you > have open. If you choke OSX, then it won't matter how much memory you give > to the virtual machine. > > If you have 4GB of memory in your Mac: > > For best performance, use these. For Windows XP, set the memory size to 1GB. > For Windows 7, set the memory size to 1.5GB. For Windows Vista, set the > memory size to 2GB, but Vista is such a poor user of memory that you > shouldn't ever use that for a VM. > > If you're trying to run as many virtual machines as possible, you can set > the memory size to a smaller amount, but, beyond a point, shrinking the > memory further will really start to affect performance. You can use as > little as 512MB for XP and 1GB for Windows 7 without dramatically affecting > performance. They'll still run fairly fast, though not at full speed, and > they'll start to lag if you open more than a few programs. If you plan to > use your virtual machine like a full PC, with Outlook, IE, Word, and several > other programs all open at once, you shouldn't be using these small memory > values. > > People will tell you things like they can run XP with 384MB, or they can run > Windows 7 with 512MB. Yes, they can, but they will run slower than they > could with sufficient memory. > > In short, there is a minimal level of memory for a VM that is required to > make it even possible to run without being frustratingly unresponsive. > Beyond that, there is a level that makes it possible to run a VM without the > frustrating lags, but you can't open many programs at once, and you're > missing out on some speed benefits. Further still is the optimal memory > level, where giving the VM any more memory might improve performance a > little, but the improvements are negligible. Finally, there is the maximum > amount of memory that it is possible for a VM to use. The ideal is to give > the VM as much as it can affectively use, but you can't give it so much that > OSX doesn't have any left over for itself. In order to get good results, you > have to work out a balance. > > > For example, I use Win 7 VMs, and I give them 3GB of memory. Win 7 could run > well with 1.5GB, but, when Windows has a lot of memory available, it uses > the extra to hold frequently used system files and other application > components in memory, so that it isn't necessary to spend time loading them > from the hard drive when needed. I have 8GB of memory in this Mac, so, while > giving Windows 7 that extra 1.5GB will only help it run fractionally faster, > I have the memory to spare, so it is better to use the extra memory to do > what I can to make Windows performance as good as it can be for a VM. > > Also, be sure that your VM is only using a single processor core. Even > though you physical CPU has 2 cores, and it is possible to share both of > them between the VM and OSX, everything will run in a more stable manner > with a single core VM. With multiple cores set on the VM, I occasionally get > choppy speech, and recording audio/audio conferencing tools in Windows don't > work correctly. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:58 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: the apple user? > > I ahave a 4 gig dool cor 2.3ghz processer with 4 gigs of ram. jaws and nvda > studder and are so chopy it missed words and sounds like diao up > connection. > On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Huh. What Mac do you have? There's clearly some problem here; I'm running > it fine on a Macbook Pro, 4GB RAM and my VM only has 2GB allocated to it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> vms though apparently cannot run on my mac as the speech gets very > choppy. I've given it all I can and still no go. >>> >>> Ah well. Take care. >>> >>> S >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: >>> >>>> hi I can't just can't use bootcamp, I must use a vm. I am a edtech >>>> ta so i don't to confeuze techer ed studentes. use both jfw, and > windoweyes. and so fare me it seems to work.ps please forgive my spealling I > am vary tired the end of the term is near. I am not getting much > sleep.Maurice ham call kd0iko.On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami > wrote: >>>> >>>>> You can set up a bootcamp partition so you can use all of yoru system > specks. that is what I did and it works well. vmwhare chokes on my system > so can't use it. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, olivia norman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is very helpful information and thanks for sending! I'm a > graduate student, and I exclusively use the mac for all school work. I > mostly use iWork to accomplish tasks. The only reason I haven't installed > fusion is because I don't own an expensive windows screen reader, but I am > wondering whether this might be a good solution for an internship I will be > doing in the fall. I really don't want to go back to jusing windows after > using my mac, so this might work well. I suppose that purchasing the > expensive windows screen reader might be inevitable, but at least I'll be > able to use my mac! How much hard drive space would I need to run fusion? >>>>>> Thank you again for this information! >>>>>> Olivia >>>>>> >>>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve >>>>>> Jobs >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders > office. And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is > to write briefs, with case citations. >>>>>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to > others about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. >>>>>>> So thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J >>>>>>> Herzog >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: the apple user? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law > school, and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I > feel I can helpfully answer your questions. >>>>>>> Forgive the length of this email. >>>>>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter > nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use > serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing > you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application > on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is > readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other > screen readers can you say that about? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications > not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. > However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware > fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as > your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for > windows and run office without a hitch. >>>>>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have > configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as > a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact configuration > at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of > windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, because > it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go south > on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better > than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot > literally restores all files and settings to the way they were when you took > it. It is much more extensive than using the built in windows system restore > utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and I will give you a > perfect example. >>>>>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a > scanner with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I > was using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for > the new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I > found myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard > windows machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall > windows to get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having > to spend hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know what > happens after that. >>>>>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior > to having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then > installed both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was > smooth sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the > burden of having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader > again, and the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. >>>>>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent > demos of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover > work, and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> Please forgive the length of this message. >>>>>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, > I've come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern > about the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it > tremendously. I've been able to do things with the phone I was never able to > do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in extensions > and account numbers once the number is connected. >>>>>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy > another phone, where I don't have accessibility built in. >>>>>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I've had any problem > of any kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. >>>>>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. >>>>>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro > on the drawing board. >>>>>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with > the exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of > the box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. >>>>>>> I'm seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with > voice over. The biggest criticism I've heard that if you're conducting a > business or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. This > apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not accessible > with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. >>>>>>> Basically, one person, who doesn't use the mac, but is familiar with > the product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to > "play." >>>>>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems > address these issues. 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