good morning Denise, I would agree with the others who have replied to this thread stating that the Mac can be used as a productivity tool. I am a University professor (in the American sense of that word rather than the Uk/Irish meaning) which means I must use my mac to write papers, grade student exams and to carry out other functions. However, I have not totally abandoned my Dell. While the word processor in iWork 09 is accessible, I don't like either the Numbers spreadsheet application or indeed the access provided by VO. It's just an opinion, and no doubt the zealots on this list will vehemently disagree, but I still believe that the browsing of spreadsheets using Jaws is unparallelled. Vo lacks the kinds of semantic access to this kind of data that Jaws/Excel provide.
I would particularly agree with the comment which said "preview" is a lovely PDF reader, however it has given me problems when used in full-screen mode. Cheers Dónal On 21 Apr 2010, at 01:23, denise avant wrote: > Hi, > > Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. And > my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write > briefs, with case citations. > > I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others > about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. > > So thanks. > > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John J Herzog > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: the apple user? > > > > Hello, > > As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and > who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I can > helpfully answer your questions. > > Forgive the length of this email. > > First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter nonsense. > On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use serious apps > as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing you to do > extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application on the mac > is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is readable with > voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other screen readers can > you say that about? > > > > Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not > being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. However, > for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. > Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your > mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for windows > and run office without a hitch. > > There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have configured > windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as a > snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact configuration > at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of > windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, because > it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go south > on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better > than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot > literally restores all files and settings to the way they were when you took > it. It is much more extensive than using the built in windows system restore > utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and I will give you a > perfect example. > > At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a scanner > with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I was > using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for the > new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I found > myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard windows > machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall windows to > get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having to spend > hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know what happens > after that. > > So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior to > having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then installed > both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was smooth > sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the burden of > having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader again, and > the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. > > I hope this helps answer your questions. > > John > > > > P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent demos > of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover work, > and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > Please forgive the length of this message. > > In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, I've > come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern about > the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it > tremendously. I've been able to do things with the phone I was never able to > do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in extensions > and account numbers once the number is connected. > > But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy another > phone, where I don't have accessibility built in. > > There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I've had any problem of any > kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. > > Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. > > I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro on the > drawing board. > > What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with the > exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of the > box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. > > I'm seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with voice > over. The biggest criticism I've heard that if you're conducting a business > or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. This > apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not accessible > with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. > > Basically, one person, who doesn't use the mac, but is familiar with the > product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to > "play." > > Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems > address these issues. 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