Hi Bryan: I tried following your instructions on a 3G iPad with no issues. The swiping method worked fine, though as Ester said, touching and flicking work better with the iPad. I don't think you're doing anything wrong, though, as you're an experienced mac/iPhone user. Could it be that there's some kind of glitch with your particular iPad? I wish I could offer some useful tips/tricks, but I'm kind of lost as to why you're having these issues at this point. I'll do some more testing with my Dad's 3G iPad and see whether I can reproduce some of these problems. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
On May 8, 2010, at 10:26 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > Did you try to follow my instructions? If you did, what happened, exactly? > > Also, I have the 3G iPad. Do you have just the Wi-Fi model? Maybe the OS is > slightly different? > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 10:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Here is a new iPad VoiceOver bug > > Interesting I haven't noticed these issues. My ipad works well with VoiceOver > not sure why! > Olivia > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 8, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Bryan Smart <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> OK, those of you with iPads, check this out. >> >> I've noticed how swiping just doesn't work sometimes on my iPad. I >> thought, hey, maybe it's me. It wasn't like this on my iPhone, though. >> I thought, maybe the screen is just not as good. Turns out, though, >> VoiceOver just isn't as good. I finally have a way to consistently >> show this crud. Wish that I could come up with good repros for the >> other problems, though. >> >> Anyway, here is a good example of swiping not working. >> >> Go in to settings. Double-tap Wi-Fi. >> >> Now, on the right side, double-tap the on/off switch on the right side >> of the screen. >> >> Now, try just once to swipe. Nothing will happen. If you try again, >> you'll be swiping just fine. Return to the switch, though. >> >> Double-tap to toggle it. Swipe once. Nothing will happen. >> >> Double-tap to toggle it again. Swipe once, again. Nothing will happen. >> >> The thing is, each time you toggle any switch, not just this once, >> swiping doesn't work the first time that you try. Not only with >> switches, this happens with radio button type controls where you >> select one in a group. >> >> Exploring further, I discovered that, for most things you do, the >> first attempt to swipe doesn't work. In Safari, when a new page loads, >> the first time I swipe never results in focus moving. In settings, >> when I double-tap a button on the left to show another category of >> settings, the first swipe never moves the focus. This isn't the case >> in absolutely every place on the iPad (the home screen isn't like >> this), but it is very prevalent, and I can make it happen over and >> over again. I'm only mentioning these apps because these are the ones >> that everyone else has to try the repro. >> >> Between this, and the deal with the screen not refreshing to >> VoiceOver, I'm starting to understand why it seemed like the interface >> wasn't responding like I'm used to with the iPhone and the MBP track >> pad. I feel like I'm fumbling a lot trying to get things to work, >> rather than being able to follow consistent patterns to get to where I >> want to be. Now that I know what's happening, I should have better >> luck, I guess. Like, every time I press a button, I have to make a >> fake swipe before I start to swipe for real. >> >> Today, while reading a web page, I also had the speech totally die. >> I would still hear the VoiceOver navigation sounds as I moved around, >> but no speech. Fortunately, I can always use the triple-tap home key >> approach to cycle VoiceOver off and on, but, as I was doing so, I >> couldn't help thinking of how constantly having to reload a screen >> reader is supposed to be par for the course in the Windows world. I >> couldn't help but angrily think how it seems that Apple has finally >> brought that feature to the iPad, also. I suppose it's to their credit >> that I don't expect this on OSX and the iPhone, but I really like not >> having an unstable screen reader. I can't say that I've never had to >> toggle VO on OSX, but that is pretty rare. I've had to do that quite a >> little bit on the iPad to work out various problems. The speech, in >> general, seems like its been tweaked for the iPad. Maybe that's why it >> chops off the ends of some words when running at full speed. >> >> Oh, and don't forget the bug with the speaker constantly running, >> draining your battery while you sleep. >> >> What's the deal? Was this thing rushed? Is the iPad running some >> hacked intermediate version of VoiceOver? As I said in my other >> thread, I've already setup a return for the iPad. I'll be sending it >> back on Tuesday. We barely have 14 days to kick the tires on it before >> the return period is up. I'm not really happy about how things have >> gone so far. >> >> I'm also really surprised that, so far, I seem to be the only one that >> has found iPad VO bugs. These haven't been hard to find. Maybe others >> have, and just haven't said so, or I haven't noticed their reports. >> Still, I've had mine for just over a week. Other people have had the >> iPad for a month. Blindness orgs have reviewed it. Has just no one >> else noticed any of these? Maybe, like me, you just feel that the user >> interface doesn't respond correctly, and don't know why/can't give a >> repro. >> >> Supposedly, the only updates that will be available are new OS >> versions. The next one is supposed to come out in the fall. 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