sure they do, but there is a change in market view, and by the way, I don't own an iphone:) larger the company is the more they begrudge even a slight change in market share. When you're talking on such a large scale with that kind of money involved a 17% share taken away from you and maybe 2 or 3 others isn't exactly apetising.
I'm honestly not being a fan-boy or an idiot, when we talk on that scale, now is when a manufacturer may wish to defend themselves regardless of merrit before it becomes not just 17 but 47 and more damage control may not be possible. On 2010-05-09, at 11:29 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > I know we love our iPhones here, but to act like Nokia is terrified and on > the ropes is silly. Do you know that 2 out of every 5 smartphones in the > world are Nokias. Their 40% market share is mamoth when compared to Apple's > 17%. BlackBerries stil out-sell iPhones. It's great that Apple sold nearly > 9,000,000 iPhones last quarter, but, in the same time, Nokia sold 21,000,000. > > As big as the iPhone is here in the US, I think that a lot of people forget > just how popular Nokia is nearly everywhere else in the world. > > These patent battles happen all of the time. Qualcom was the big focus a few > years ago. Nokia and Apple will maneuver for a while, they'll come to some > agreement that I won't sue you for this patent if you don't sue me for that > one, and then they'll both try to take a swing at RIM. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marie Howarth > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: o.t, maybe. Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of > Nokia patents > > and that is the point. Nokia's suffering so what do they do, hit the company > that potentially has the most money. > > On 9 May 2010, at 11:49, Kaare Dehard wrote: > >> sounds to me like they are timing this right, results are down for Nokia >> right now and they're probably trying to do this to cut some losses witha >> fat lisencing contract. >> On 2010-05-08, at 11:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> agreed. I do wonder what will come out of it though? I hoep nokia >>> looses big time On May 8, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>> >>>> Yet another boring lawsuit. 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