Hi, I don't think Nokia feels particularly threaten in this case. From what I have read it is Apple and Nokia just trading lawsuits. A month ago Apple sued HTC. Do you think Apple did it because they were threatened? Maybe. And about Motorola. lol. If it wasn't for Android and the release of the Droid in the last year, they would be non existent in the smart phone game. Motorola is up for sale but no one wants to buy. So I think Motorola being as cutting edge as a bag of potato chips is more a reason for their business being killed than the iPhone. lol. Like I said. Motorola didn't have a smart phone out until the Droid came out in the winter. On May 9, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Marie, > > Very well stated and that is exactly what it boils down too. Nokia like other > companies feel threaten and the first response is crank up the lawsuit > generator and fling lots of legal fecal matter all over the place and hope > some sticks. > On May 9, 2010, at 12:36 PM, marie Howarth wrote: > >> I hate to tell you but I'm not from the US. I am highly aware of the >> popularity of nokias, seen as I live in Europe but it's a case of nokia is >> suing because they seem to think they can. Other manufacturers have no doubt >> used the patents that Apple are being accused of, GSM is used all over the >> world by many different manufacturers so Apple's merely an easy target at >> this present time. The old saying, "sitting duck" springs to mind. No one >> really believes nokia is scared but they are protecting their future >> interests. They obviously perceive Apple to be a threat otherwise the other >> manufacturers would be receiving a lawsuit also. >> it's called business. >> >> >> On 9 May 2010, at 16:29, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >>> I know we love our iPhones here, but to act like Nokia is terrified and on >>> the ropes is silly. Do you know that 2 out of every 5 smartphones in the >>> world are Nokias. Their 40% market share is mamoth when compared to Apple's >>> 17%. BlackBerries stil out-sell iPhones. It's great that Apple sold nearly >>> 9,000,000 iPhones last quarter, but, in the same time, Nokia sold >>> 21,000,000. >>> >>> As big as the iPhone is here in the US, I think that a lot of people forget >>> just how popular Nokia is nearly everywhere else in the world. >>> >>> These patent battles happen all of the time. Qualcom was the big focus a >>> few years ago. Nokia and Apple will maneuver for a while, they'll come to >>> some agreement that I won't sue you for this patent if you don't sue me for >>> that one, and then they'll both try to take a swing at RIM. >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth >>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:07 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: o.t, maybe. Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of >>> Nokia patents >>> >>> and that is the point. Nokia's suffering so what do they do, hit the >>> company that potentially has the most money. >>> >>> On 9 May 2010, at 11:49, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>> >>>> sounds to me like they are timing this right, results are down for Nokia >>>> right now and they're probably trying to do this to cut some losses witha >>>> fat lisencing contract. >>>> On 2010-05-08, at 11:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> agreed. I do wonder what will come out of it though? I hoep nokia >>>>> looses big time On May 8, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yet another boring lawsuit. I really think this type of thing is >>>>>> just to see who can score browny points against another company; >>>>>> it's not really in the interest of consumers, despite what nokia will >>>>>> tell you. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/05/2010, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Subject: NOKIA - Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of >>>>>>> Nokia patents >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOKIA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of Nokia patents >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Espoo, Finland - Nokia announced that it has today filed a >>>>>>> complaint against Apple with the Federal District Court in the >>>>>>> Western District of Wisconsin, alleging that Apple iPhone and iPad >>>>>>> 3G products infringe five important Nokia patents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The patents in question relate to technologies for enhanced speech >>>>>>> and data transmission, using positioning data in applications and >>>>>>> innovations in antenna configurations that improve performance and >>>>>>> save space, allowing smaller and more compact devices. 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