Hi,

I am the same way. I should really give it another chance and see how it works 
out for me.

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Nic
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On May 27, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

> In theory I really like group mode, and understand intelectually how it 
> speeds stuff up, but I've never gotten in to it on a big time basis. 
> On 2010-05-27, at 7:55 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hi,  Dom and group are different approaches for navigating html areas like 
>> web pages.
>> 
>> Dom mode is similar to what you would see when viewing a page using a 
>> windows screen reader.  Each item on the page, whether it be a link, a 
>> button, a block of text, or whatever is placed one below the other according 
>> to the screen reader at least.  Dom is easiest for beginners because it only 
>> presents one link or button or piece of text at a time for your 
>> consideration.
>> 
>> Group mode arranges the page as a sighted person would see it, with areas 
>> for different pieces of information, and all columns and tables laid out 
>> properly.  This is better for advanced users because it will for example, 
>> present you a table in rows and columns as it was meant to be.  It will also 
>> present you things such as all the links in the site navigation bar at once. 
>>  So, if you don't want any of the links from the sight navigation bar, you 
>> can leave it with one keypress.  You get more information at once and you 
>> can skip through the information more quickly to find what you want.
>> 
>> If you want to see the difference for yourself, visit 
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com.  This is a small web page with very good 
>> accessibility features.  
>> 
>> To switch between dom and group, press vo f8 to open the voiceover utility.
>> Press w or arrow down to web.
>> Press tab once and you will be on the radio buttons for dom or group.
>> Use the up and down arrows to choose the mode you want and press command q 
>> to close the vo utility.
>> After you make the switch, refresh the page, command r.  Your not supposed 
>> to have to do this, but I'm a bit supersticious about it.
>> 
>> Try the home page in dom mode, then try it in group.  Notice that not only 
>> is access to the information easier in group, but yu actually seem to have 
>> more information in group.  Of course that's not the case, you just have to 
>> spend more effort to find the info in dom than you do ing group.
>> 
>> Then click the list of authorized resellers.  Suppose you only wanted 
>> contact info for the resellers that work with me.  Assuming you are in group 
>> mode, navigate to the first column of the table, and then  vo down the 
>> symbols until you find the first gold star.  Then vo right to see that 
>> company's name and contact info.  Similarly, if you want to check a 
>> particular company to see if they work with me, you would vo up and down the 
>> list of company names until you found the one you wanted, then vo left to 
>> see if it has a blue arrow or a gold star.  If you switch back to dom mode 
>> now and refresh the page, you will no longer be able to vo up and down the 
>> columns.  You'll have to sift through every piece of info about every vender 
>> until you find the information you are looking for.
>> 
>> Have fun,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 888-255-5194
>> 
>> On 2010-05-27, at 2:22 AM, clarence griffin wrote:
>> 
>>> what is dom? sorry for the ignorant question? and for that matter, what's 
>>> group mode?
>>> 
>>> GF
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 24, 2010, at 4:54 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, Is there such a thing as a voiceover script to switch between dom and 
>>>> group mode?  That would be extrordinarily useful since it seems adium will 
>>>> not support group mode soon if ever.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd write it myself if I knew how.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>> Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto.  I'll be at 
>>>> the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating 
>>>> for the rest of the day.
>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>> 888-255-5194
>>>> 
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