> thanks very much for that. I will try this at once. I do a lot on the web and 
> this seams like it will help allot!

GF


On May 27, 2010, at 7:55 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi,  Dom and group are different approaches for navigating html areas like 
> web pages.
> 
> Dom mode is similar to what you would see when viewing a page using a windows 
> screen reader.  Each item on the page, whether it be a link, a button, a 
> block of text, or whatever is placed one below the other according to the 
> screen reader at least.  Dom is easiest for beginners because it only 
> presents one link or button or piece of text at a time for your consideration.
> 
> Group mode arranges the page as a sighted person would see it, with areas for 
> different pieces of information, and all columns and tables laid out 
> properly.  This is better for advanced users because it will for example, 
> present you a table in rows and columns as it was meant to be.  It will also 
> present you things such as all the links in the site navigation bar at once.  
> So, if you don't want any of the links from the sight navigation bar, you can 
> leave it with one keypress.  You get more information at once and you can 
> skip through the information more quickly to find what you want.
> 
> If you want to see the difference for yourself, visit 
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com.  This is a small web page with very good 
> accessibility features.  
> 
> To switch between dom and group, press vo f8 to open the voiceover utility.
> Press w or arrow down to web.
> Press tab once and you will be on the radio buttons for dom or group.
> Use the up and down arrows to choose the mode you want and press command q to 
> close the vo utility.
> After you make the switch, refresh the page, command r.  Your not supposed to 
> have to do this, but I'm a bit supersticious about it.
> 
> Try the home page in dom mode, then try it in group.  Notice that not only is 
> access to the information easier in group, but yu actually seem to have more 
> information in group.  Of course that's not the case, you just have to spend 
> more effort to find the info in dom than you do ing group.
> 
> Then click the list of authorized resellers.  Suppose you only wanted contact 
> info for the resellers that work with me.  Assuming you are in group mode, 
> navigate to the first column of the table, and then  vo down the symbols 
> until you find the first gold star.  Then vo right to see that company's name 
> and contact info.  Similarly, if you want to check a particular company to 
> see if they work with me, you would vo up and down the list of company names 
> until you found the one you wanted, then vo left to see if it has a blue 
> arrow or a gold star.  If you switch back to dom mode now and refresh the 
> page, you will no longer be able to vo up and down the columns.  You'll have 
> to sift through every piece of info about every vender until you find the 
> information you are looking for.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 888-255-5194
> 
> On 2010-05-27, at 2:22 AM, clarence griffin wrote:
> 
>> what is dom? sorry for the ignorant question? and for that matter, what's 
>> group mode?
>> 
>> GF
>> 
>> 
>> On May 24, 2010, at 4:54 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, Is there such a thing as a voiceover script to switch between dom and 
>>> group mode?  That would be extrordinarily useful since it seems adium will 
>>> not support group mode soon if ever.
>>> 
>>> I'd write it myself if I knew how.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto.  I'll be at 
>>> the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating 
>>> for the rest of the day.
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 888-255-5194
>>> 
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