Here is where I think one of the biggest issues is though. As a prospective Mac user, from the demos and manuals, there seem to be an awful lot of different and often complex keystrokes to do things. I'm not clear if one needs all of them or if people doing the demos are making things more complex than needed, or just not explaining why things are the way they are. In Windows we can work out which methods to try based on what kind of task we are doing. We know that you activate things with either enter or space, both single keystrokes. We know there are many ways to move around, but we know that we can find most things by exploring menus or tabbing. Most times, our screen readers know what we are most likely to want to do and give us the option of automating that task, often on a per application basis. They can also give us relatively simple keystrokes on a per application basis to do tasks specific to that application.
It comes across that with a Mac you have at least three different way to select things and that only one of them will work in a given situation. It comes across that you have to navigate relatively complex screens with multi-finger keystrokes to do what you can often do with one single keystroke in Windows, specific questions in a separate message, and it comes across that there are a lot of situations when a Windows screen reader would automate something that you have to tell VO to do. Be assured, I raise these points not in opposition to converting, I'm here because I'm seriously thinking that when this computer goes, the next one will be a Mac, but for others thinking of converting, I hope the answers people give to these points will reassure them and hopefully be reflected in some sort of searchable tips and tricks kind of website. I very much want to know what's possible, not seem in opposition. Cheers Dave -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimberly thurman Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically Yeah, I fell into that trap early on with VO coming from Jaws. Now, when I pick up my windows laptop, I have to remind myself where the tab key is and not to grab the control and windows key with the arrows. It's very disorienting some times. LOL!!!!! On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Dave, > > You can set VO to interact automatically when you tab to a field where this is appropriate, but tabbing isn't always the best way to navigate with VO. Many ex-JAWS users get themselves into a muddle by tabbing everywhere. As a very very long-term Mac user, the tab key is the last thing I think about for navigation. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Dave Taylor wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Does tabbing around not make VO automatically interact? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
