It's not a laser camera. It's just a laser barcode reader, and in my opinion 
they over charge for the thing. I am not going to commit to anything here. But 
if I can get ahold of a bluetooth barcode reader, the laser type, I would like 
to port an app that I wrote for the Icon/Braille Plus that does exactly the 
same thing. The issue is that a BT reader usually runs around $300 and that 
price point is still too high in my opinion. I would really like for the entry 
point to be in the 100 to 150 dollar range.

I have been wondering why the Digit-Eyes folks haven't considered this 
approach. It would not be very difficult to make it a setting to either use the 
camera or the scanner to grab the barcode and then query their database. Hell, 
I would even contemplate the $30 cost of the software and the $300 cost of a 
scanner if it had that functionality.

Just my thoughts.

Keith

But if I can find 
On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have managed to scan a few things with sighted assistance. I will do a 
> podcast tomorrow on it. I think you have to wait for a minute or two for 
> Digit-eyes to come back with a positive ID.  I  didn't know the ID Mate had a 
> lazar camera that makes sense why it's so expensive. there is  a trick with 
> Digit-Eyes according to my Mom. You have to hold the phone on it's side and 
> make sure the screen curtain is turned off. If you hold it a few inches away 
> from the item you're trying to scan you will get better results that way or 
> so I've found with the few things I tried.
> 
> Allison
> 
> On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> No not really, it is tricky, if you have a enough sight to see where the 
>> barcode is then you have a bit more success. It has been hit and miss with 
>> me and to be honest by the time I have managed to get it to read a barcode I 
>> have placed the item under my iPal Solo to have it read instead.  I I have 
>> not used the ID mate in person, but I guess the 3D camera would explain its 
>> hight price. 
>> 
>> If you have no vision at all it is very difficult to locate the barcode, so 
>> this solution is not ideal, unless there was a ruling to say where barcodes 
>> can always be found.  Let's hope the OCR solutions for the iPhone are more 
>> successful.  But the barcode reader is not totally useless as I did manage 
>> to scan some things.
>> On 27 Jun 2010, at 07:16, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>>> With Digit-Eyes, how do you find the bar code? When I was involved with the 
>>> development of an accessible bar code system a few years back, cameras 
>>> didn't do a good job. For the bar code recognition to work, the camera 
>>> couldn't face the bar code at an angle, at it had to be right-side-up. Of 
>>> course, a blind person doesn't necessarily know where on the box, can, or 
>>> bottle the bar code is to be found, so that creates a challenge. That's 
>>> partly why the ID Mate is so expensive. They must use a 3D laser scanner, 
>>> like is used in the check-out line at a grocery store. Those perform an 
>>> active scan, and can register bar codes at any angle, and even on curved 
>>> surfaces. You can basically hold up the scanner and turn the container in 
>>> front of the camera, and it will automatically scan the bar code as soon as 
>>> it's visible, regardless of the bar code's orientation.
>>> 
>>> My thoughts were that the iPhone app would be like trying to read a bar 
>>> code with a CCD scanner. Yes, it would work but only if you knew where to 
>>> find the bar code, which way was right-side-up, and only if the bar code 
>>> was on a flat surface. Is it better than that?
>>> 
>>> Bryan 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone
>>> 
>>> Hi Bryan and all,
>>> 
>>> I can say with certainty that the camera on the 3GS works well for the new 
>>> bar code reader that Josh Lioncourt was talking about the other day 
>>> Digit-Eyes. I have downloaded it and it works well. Not having any 
>>> experience with the Iphone 4, I can't say about the cameras. I know it has 
>>> two according to Cara Quin's podcast. Have a great day.
>>> 
>>> Allison
>>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bryan,
>>>> 
>>>> From what I have heard, the 3GS camera will do the job even if it is not 
>>>> as good as the new iPhone 4. I will be very interested in how this 
>>>> application performs despite the limitations of the 3GS.
>>>> On Jun 26, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The iPhone 4 should do a great job with this app. The 5 megapixel camera 
>>>>> provides the level of resolution that assisted KNFB Reader so much. With 
>>>>> the lower quality cameras, the DPI of scanned images is too low.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bryan
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:30 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> No,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The iPod touch doesn't have a camera.
>>>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Will this work with the Ipod Touch also?
>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't think it's out yet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I couldn't find it in the app store.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:15 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> I just got this link from a friend of mine. Apparently, this app is 
>>>>>>>> free, and it performs OCR using the new IPhone. It's different from 
>>>>>>>> the one that emails your image to a server and then gives you back 
>>>>>>>> text. This one actually performs OCR on the phone.
>>>>>>>> Furthermore, it automatically takes pictures once the camera is 
>>>>>>>> aligned with the center of the document.
>>>>>>>> Check out this link for more information.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.docscannerapp.com/saytext/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can someone let me know how it works?
>>>>>>>> John
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